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Post by Albert on Nov 1, 2003 22:33:46 GMT 1
Hello, Have you ever been looking for a model that you have seen listed or announced as a future release, and when you have got it you have become completely dissapointed?  Just because the model has wrong proportions, is bad painted, etc... The most recent I found is the AWM Peugeot 206 CC "closed" with an awful roof, too high. Or what about the Ford Probe? A pity....  Albert |
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Post by Christian on Nov 2, 2003 1:20:37 GMT 1
The Busch Ford Probe, really? What is so bad about it?
I now consider Busch's Borgward Isabella Coupé a bad interpretation of the prototype. I used to think otherwise, but a look at the much better Wiking model convinced me. The way the chrome trim is done is awful and the proportions are far off. Particularly annoying is the construction of the roof and windshield which allow for a convertible variant without much effort, but that just looks poorly engineered.
Christian
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Post by Lee on Nov 2, 2003 4:29:25 GMT 1
The worst 1/87 model is the one that has not been made!  I have seen a lot of "poorly" done models by manufactures, but at least someone tried to produce it for the rest of us. Some of the vehicles coming out on the market now days are really state of the art in model making. |
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Post by Christian on Nov 2, 2003 18:57:31 GMT 1
I think I agree with you Lee, after all I choose models for my collection by type and not by quality. On the other hand I find identical models from two or more different companies wasted opportunities - just like that Borgward (and in such a case the quality deficiencies become very obvious!).
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Post by Albert on Nov 2, 2003 20:41:22 GMT 1
I find some rare proprtions in "A pillars" and the front of the Probe. But I am agree with you Lee, someone has tried to do that car.
And also agree that it is annoying when there are three different Golf IV (Herpa, Wiking, AWM) but nobody offers a Cougar. Nevertheless it was worst some years ago, when Herpa and Wiking were releasing the same cars. Mazda MX5, Ferrari 348, Trabant...
Years ago I thought we would be offered a lot of New Beetle, Mini and even Smart´s
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Post by Alan on Nov 4, 2003 22:47:22 GMT 1
That's a thought. Why did Herpa list the new Mini under Rover and not BMW?  By the way, I live only 25km from where the real ones are made! ;D |
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Post by Eric on Nov 5, 2003 0:28:44 GMT 1
I wouldn't say most ugly but Herpa's interpretation of the Ford Escort is not one of their best models..... Come to think of it, I don't think any of the models from their 'youngtimers' series are of the same high quality as other Herpa models Eric |
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Post by Lee on Nov 5, 2003 1:54:47 GMT 1
OK lets pick on Herpa's Ford Escort. The grill piece is not set in flush to the body. The windshield wipers look two demensional. One of my big beefs now days is the lines around the doors. If the space between the door and the body was blown up to full size you could put your fist in it. I have never liked the color in the plastic - it looks like plastic, not paint. The tires look like they are over inflated. And we haven't begun to talk about the porportions. Other than those few small flaws, it isn't too bad a model. Compare it to what was on the market 20-30 years ago. I'll bet the price says toy for the kid, not a model for the adult.
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Post by Lee on Nov 5, 2003 2:20:41 GMT 1
You didn't say military doesn't count ssssssssoooooooo
The Boley Sherman Tank is really, really bad. The tracks look like they came from something else - way to long. There is a box? on the front that I have never seen in any picture. There are other wrong details that are to numberous to even mention. But what do you want or expect for $3.00.
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Post by Alan on Nov 5, 2003 12:26:30 GMT 1
Yes, that's a good point, tracks. Just look at any Kibri kit! How is it that manufacturers cannot seem to get these right? They just seem to leave massive gaps between track and wheels.  |
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Post by Christian on Nov 5, 2003 16:27:09 GMT 1
Lee: I claim that many models from 20-30 years ago were actually better done than Herpa's Ford Escort, made in China obviously with very little tooling knowledge. Also, the Escort isn't exactly cheap either.
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Post by Lee on Nov 6, 2003 5:51:30 GMT 1
I can remember back in the early '50's the Dinky toy models were considered the state of the art. In the late '50's AMT/Ertl came out with 1/24 scale models of the new (American) cars every year. They also put out a built up friction car for each model. They were all fairly good, but much bigger than what we do so the detail was easier. The first line that I remember in 1/87 th was Lindsey's Matchbox, and their scale was all over the place. Varney did a set of three fords that were fair in the early '50's. Jordan, Ulrich, Weston and Dyno Model are the only others that I remember. The then current vehicles were not made that I know of. Go ahead and prove me wrong.  |
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Post by Eric on Nov 7, 2003 0:39:41 GMT 1
Re: tracks
Tracks have always been difficult, given the small scale and low weight of the models it is nearly impossible to create tracks that will actually look like tracks. From my 1/35 modeling past I know that there are a lot of aftermarket tracks available, most of these are made of metal and look really good when painted. I don't know if it is feasible (it is only a niche market ofcourse), but maybe we can persuade someone to do the same in 1/87 ?
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Post by Christian on Nov 10, 2003 22:52:06 GMT 1
Lee,
to be precise, I believe that a lot of the earlier Wiking stuff (even those without windows) has better proportions than Herpa's Ford. As for the details, I consider the Silhouette models from Japan top-notch, and for good reasons: rubber tires, transparent head and rearlights, number plates, etc. Those were made 21 years ago, pictures are at 87thscale.
Then again, today's models are generally much much better than their predecessors from decades ago.
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Post by Christian on Nov 10, 2003 23:13:59 GMT 1
Oh, and Eric: tracks are available in 1/87. Photoetched, primarily made for tanks and other military vehicles.
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I have seen a lot of "poorly" done models by manufactures, but at least someone tried to produce it for the rest of us. Some of the vehicles coming out on the market now days are really state of the art in model making. 
