skunk
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Post by skunk on Jan 24, 2004 7:03:25 GMT 1
Thanks Lee. In terms of what I would not do I am just plain tired of: 57 chevy 57 t-bird any corvette any mustang Ford Model A It just seems like they are available in every possible scale. Joe AMEN!!!
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 24, 2004 12:22:39 GMT 1
I agree with you about the list above, but I could do with a Chevy 1957 sedan, or even a Nomad Station wagon. ;D By the way, as we’re talking Mustang, I’ve never understood why Busch has never proposed a hardtop version of their 1964 Mustang convertible.
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Post by superba on Jan 24, 2004 13:22:06 GMT 1
A little off subject, but I have never understood the almost god like following of the 57 Chevy.
In 57, the Chevy was basically a rehashed 55 with fins attached.
In comparison the 57 Chrylser and Ford products were all new for 57, they were longer, lower and wider with intergrated fins. They were far more advance then the GM's
Joe
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 24, 2004 13:49:26 GMT 1
Well, as a matter of fact, I do prefer 1957 Ford, especially the Fairlane and Fairlane 500 (Williams proposes a good model of it), even if I’m not so keen about the gold insert on the sides. A little too much for me.
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stanhas87
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Post by stanhas87 on Jan 24, 2004 16:34:43 GMT 1
Dear Sirs: And I would go for the 1957 Studebaker sedans.They really looked good. On the other hand,I wonder why no manufacturer wants to do the 1957 Chevy 4-door sedan.Even when a cop car is done,the 2-door is used.The only four door model that I know from this car was by ATMA from Brazil (a large remote-control car). I agree.though:too many models from this car were done....................................
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Post by h0collector on Jan 24, 2004 16:47:37 GMT 1
Well, as a matter of fact, I do prefer 1957 Ford, especially the Fairlane and Fairlane 500 (Williams proposes a good model of it), even if I’m not so keen about the gold insert on the sides. A little too much for me. I agree with you on the Williams '57 Ford. It is a very good-looking model, but it is too short, especially for being a Fairlane with the then-new 118-inch wheelbase chassis. Altough Williams names it Fairlane, I would prefer to make it as the Custom 500 (2-door) with 116-inch w.b., which is more correct for the length of this model. (116'' = 1.33'' = 33,8 mm. in 1/87, while 118'' = 1.36'' = 34,5 mm. in 1/87). Williams '57 Ford has a w.b. ca. 33 mm./1.3''. The overall length is 57 mm./2.245'' which equals total length 496 cm./195.2'' in 1/1. Sounds to be a bit short for any '57 Ford, but not too bad for the Custom ?
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Post by h0collector on Jan 24, 2004 16:57:02 GMT 1
A little off subject, but I have never understood the almost god like following of the 57 Chevy. In 57, the Chevy was basically a rehashed 55 with fins attached. In comparison the 57 Chrylser and Ford products were all new for 57, they were longer, lower and wider with intergrated fins. They were far more advance then the GM's Joe Yes, you are right Joe. With their all-new line for 1957, the '57 Chrysler ads said: "Suddenly it's 1960!" And indeed, with totally new Chrysler's, Dodge's, Plymouth's and DeSoto's, MOPAR (Chrysler Corp.) was the KING in 1957!!! No question about that! Even the new '57 Ford's (not to speak about GM with their restyled '55 Chevys) looked old-fasioned compared with the new Mopars.
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 24, 2004 17:03:43 GMT 1
I would prefer to make it as the Custom 500 Uh…, Yes, I agree with you about the length. Williams Ford is perhaps too short for HO scale. But 1957 Ford Custom 300 and Fairlane have totally different side mouldings and rear wings?
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 24, 2004 17:08:32 GMT 1
Even when a cop car is done,the 2-door is used Yes; I agree with you. I’m not so keen about all these 2-door sedans available as Police cars. 4-door sedans will be more accurate.
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 24, 2004 17:13:02 GMT 1
As you’re talking about the KING, I think that in one of his movies, he has this word about a 1957 Imperial convertible "The flying saucers have landed at last"! ;D
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Post by h0collector on Jan 24, 2004 17:30:59 GMT 1
Uh…, Yes, I agree with you about the length. Williams Ford is perhaps too short for HO scale. But 1957 Ford Custom 300 and Fairlane have totally different side mouldings and rear wings? I believe the basic body is more or less the same for Custom and Fairlane series, from pictures it looks to be so. But there must be a difference somewhere since the Custom series has 116'' w.b. while the Fairlane has 118'' w.b. Of course side trims and other details are different, but can be changed on the Williams model. I can recommend this site about 1957 Ford; www.1957ford.com
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Post by h0collector on Jan 24, 2004 17:51:04 GMT 1
As you’re talking about the KING, I think that in one of his movies, he has this word about a 1957 Imperial convertible "The flying saucers have landed at last"! ;D Oh yes; in 1957 the real space age started with the Russian Sputnik 1 and 2 (with the Laika dog) satelites, even though Detroit seemed to have started its own "space race" already... The late 1950s Imperials is a highlight in automotive art. Several years ago I made a 1/87 '57 Imperial, based on the (so-called?) Eko's DeSoto Diplomat. I maybe be wrong, but to me the Eko looks more like an Imperial than a DeSoto. However, the Eko model is too short for being an Imperial (even too short for a DeSoto), so I started to make it longer, the easiest part of such a conversion. Next is all the other details which differs a chosen basis model to the wanted. I was not satisfied with the result , but my dream to have a '57 Imperial "flying saucer" is still alive , so I may find it from my "1/87-archives" to work further on that project - who knows...
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 24, 2004 17:52:17 GMT 1
I believe the basic body is more or less the same for Custom and Fairlane series You’re right. It looks more or less the same. But I think the fins on the Fairlane are perhaps longer (I’m not sure) and they begin with a curve on the rear door (or just after the front door for 2-door model), when they’re straight for the Custom. Last, the Williams model is a 2-door hardtop, and I don’t think 2-door hardtops were available in the Custom series. Well, in a few words, too much work for me. Good luck! ;D And if you do it, I’d like to see your work. Good website. I was about to indicate you the same address! Another on, in French, not so good… membres.lycos.fr/fairlane/
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stanhas87
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Post by stanhas87 on Jan 24, 2004 17:57:51 GMT 1
Dear Bjarte,Sylvian:
I agree about the Imperial! By 1957 to the early 1960's,it was the classiest luxury cars one could get. The De Soto Diplomat was an export model.De Soto model,Plymouth front grille.
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 24, 2004 18:05:29 GMT 1
Well, as we were talking about it with Joe a few messages ago, Eko’s DeSoto looks more like a Plymouth, as Diplomat models were Plymouth cars with DeSoto fronts. But that’s another story. Not a bad idea to use it to obtain an Imperial. I’ve used it to make a 1959 Plymouth Sedan and I think I will may be try to make a 1959 DeSoto Station wagon of it. I’ve realised a few days ago that 1959 DeSoto and Plymouth Station wagons are much in common.
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