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Post by Tatoun on Jul 5, 2007 12:15:42 GMT 1
Hello
Yes Brekina is releasing quite all 60s BMW, but the E3 2500-2800 and the 2000 CS are still missing. And the deserve to be modelled. Any hope ?
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Post by Marc S. on Jul 5, 2007 13:09:03 GMT 1
In the long run, yes.
Marc S.
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Post by Cor_DutchArt on Jul 5, 2007 17:40:08 GMT 1
In the long run, yes. Marc S. There are also rumours about Volvo 140 and the Saab 96. Very well possible because the Amazone was a big hit. Especially in Sweden! Cor.
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Post by skunk on Jul 5, 2007 18:22:53 GMT 1
The Volvo 140 is definitely likely. I wouldn't hold out too much hope for the Saab 96, though.
Brekina's Sweden series did almost single-handedly create a vibrant 87th scale community in Sweden. Wiking's Volvo 850 Polis also helped, but Brekina did a really good job of creating a market for themselves where there wasn't much before.
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Post by BillC on Jul 5, 2007 18:49:28 GMT 1
I would love to see a vibrant 1/87 scale community in Sweden. I have been trying to persuade some people to make new Volvos for quite a while.
Saabs are a problem: Saab is owned by GM and none of the real Saabs will pass the choke tube test. Hopefully someone in Germany, where there is a bit more freedom, will make the Saabs for the rest of us.
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Post by mstar on Jul 5, 2007 23:19:20 GMT 1
I would love to see a vibrant 1/87 scale community in Sweden. I have been trying to persuade some people to make new Volvos for quite a while. And have you been successful? I would love to see recent Volvo's. Especially C30, V50, C70 and XC90.
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Post by cooya on Jul 6, 2007 11:51:12 GMT 1
Stanhas87: "Myself I am glad to see the endless molding of Mercedes and BMWs that was usually brought by the big three is having a competion by manufacturers who tought outside the box"
"...that instead of following the past tendency to mold everything Mercedes or BMW and are releasing..."
skunk: "Also, nearly all BMWs and Mercedeses have been done by now"
only87: "That may have showed them that there is still an unconquered market for older vehicles besides Mercedes and BMW's"
...Why are you always moaning about too many BMWs made (in combination with Brekina)?!?
all BMWs by Brekina:
- "02-series" 1602-2002 - "new class" 1500-2000
So you say 2 different models from one manufacturer are too much?!? What about Opel then?
all Opel models made by Brekina:
- Olympia Rekord 53 sedan - Olympia Rekord 53 convertible - Rekord P1 sedan - Rekord P1 caravan - Rekord P2 sedan - Rekord P2 caravan - Rekord P2 transporter - Rekord P2 coupe - Record C / Commodore A - Kadett A - Kapitän /Admiral (KAD) - Blitz long bonnet - Blitz 60 - Blitz 65
PS: Sorry that my first post is so offending but I am a BMW-fan and couldn´t bare this anti-BMW-attitude here
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Post by Eric on Jul 6, 2007 15:09:22 GMT 1
Cooya,
while the argument may be valid for Brekina (although they did 3 BMW's actually) it is certainly invalid for other manufacturers. Have a look at the big three's catalogues and you'll see there are BMW and Mercedes models in abundance whereas other makes are underrepresented
Eric
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Post by skunk on Jul 6, 2007 15:47:35 GMT 1
Hello Cooya!
I love BMWs too - but I think that the newer BMWs are definitely overrepresented in 1:87. When it comes to oldies, however, the picture is very different as you so correctly point out.
It is unbelievable that no one is still offering the E3 or 2000CS for instance, or the 503 Coupe or BMW 600 or 700 for that matter. So Brekina should probably go right ahead and develop some more BMWs. But I can't make myself care whether Herpa makes a Z4 Coupé or not.
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Post by stanhas87 on Jul 6, 2007 19:04:32 GMT 1
Dear Cooya:
Welcome to the board and thanks for your comment. Up to 2003, the 1/87 scale picture was mostly suupplied by he German Manufacturers, but a tad later on, the Chinese enterd at this market with a vengeance, and albeit, as only87 stated, they may not know who Motormax or Malibu is, I am pretty sure they know that they are being challenged (in terms of variety, not quality) and also sure that they are aware that the challengers are being sucessful in terms of sales (toys, yeah, but one still can tell what car it is and that these can be improved). As you are a BMW fan, I the one whoc can not have enough Chryslers or Oldsmobiles (many have to be done, according to me and others in here). I also onto older vehicles, so any that is made by Brekina is greatly appreciated by me, and thanks to my buddy Jack, I can get most of them.
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Post by Cor_DutchArt on Jul 6, 2007 19:54:12 GMT 1
The 700 is done by Herpa Magic! But indeed the 2000CS might be a good choise for Brekina. On the other hand.... I think Brekina wants to expend they horizon with "foreign" models to get a better basis on the whole European market. Many of us are very glad that they don't do just German models like Herpa and Wiking. Not saying these manufacturers does only Germans but it's obviously their "thing".
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Post by hofan on Jul 7, 2007 10:33:09 GMT 1
Hello: With all the respect to your opinion guys, still I think a BMW whether it is new or old has the chance of being successful more than many other models. The reason for that, other than the nice stream of models BMW has, is the fact that the main sales for the 1/87scale is still in Germany and some nearby countries that the BMW is popular there. I do not think that Herpa will not commission the Z4 coupe because they think that this model will fail but rather that they prefer to invest their money in a model that will get them more money. I do not have any numbers but may be Bill can gives us an idea of where Ricko sells the most and what types of models. regards
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Post by hofan on Jul 7, 2007 10:39:32 GMT 1
Hello Yes Brekina is releasing quite all 60s BMW, but the E3 2500-2800 and the 2000 CS are still missing. And the deserve to be modelled. Any hope ? Hello: I thought that Herpa might release this model in their Magic series and still think that it will be made soon( Not necessarily by Herpa). regards
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Post by Cor_DutchArt on Jul 7, 2007 12:14:01 GMT 1
It's funny!
We, in Europe, are lobbying for decennia to get more not German models and now we get them the Germans want more German models. I think they don't have to wait as long as we to get them. This because the manufacturers are mostly German too! I still hope that, at least Brekina, will continue to bring more "foreign" models. It's a pity that Herpa do that mainly in the Magic series, witch are qulitative less as the normal Herpa's. Lucky they did the Volvo, Moskvits and Volga in the normal serie. I see that as a try out after the sucesses from Brekina with older types. But also Brekina don't forget his homemarket. Lots of beautiful new Opels for instance. And the Fiat 1100 was also made in Germany, remember?
I think the Gemans have no reason to complaint and neather have we!
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Post by skunk on Jul 7, 2007 18:42:27 GMT 1
Nowadays it is really hard to complain about the availability of models. It seems that whatever I think of hard enough soon becomes available from a major manufacturer (Pacer, any French car, Rekord D, Audi 60, Fiat X1/9, and on and on ad infinitum). I am going to start a serious programme of meditating, focussing every fibre in my body upon the Facel Vega. We'll see what happens.
And hats off to Brekina for their ability to constantly surprise and delight.
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