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Post by only87 on Oct 27, 2007 13:37:31 GMT 1
I have some parts for airfield vehicles from the R&L cereal series, two nice luggage tractors in 1/87 and some smaller scale vehicles in about 1/120, two airfield buses, an airfield tanker and a fire tender in a nice 60's style. Even the smaller vehicles are so nicely detailed that I decided to get some use out of them so I started playing around with them and decided to merge those vehicles bodies to some 1/87 cars. For the buses I want to use the Eko Jeep Mula as a base building two rather similar 4x4 airfield buses. For the tanker and the fire tender I'll maybe use some older Chevy pickup or something similar. I also have a Landrover Forward Control fire tender that would fit in nicely in this set. So I have all the infrastructure figured out quite well. I want to go for some kind of South American"Pampa airport", maybe for a mining camp, using the 4x4 buses to get the workers to the camp and only smaller vehicles are needed for refuelling etc. For the planes the DC-3 freighter would fit in perfectly but I was still searching for something additional and special until I found an old Aurora kit of a Beechcraft Super 18 by sheer luck on Ebay. There was no scale claimed for this kit by Aurora so I trusted the seller's description who had measured it and claimed it as circa 1/87. The kit didn't go for cheap but now I needed to know for sure. I got really excited when the model arrived and immediately pulled out the ruler: Perfectly 1/87! Here's a pic of the box art: www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=7315&manu=AuroraI did some research and found ou that the kit is a sought after collectable by now. The 25 bucks I paid for it are a real good deal. There is a second model from Aurora in a bigger scale which shares the same box cover, no scale claimed either. So if anyone here wants to go for such a kit, look out for the reference number, the models beginning with 284 - ... are the ones in H0, the ones with 83 - ... are the bigger ones. The kit is very simple (early 60's tooling) and has no chassis / wheels, but a good starting point. Now I need to get one of these DC-3 kits and a second Jeep Mula (anybody have a spare?) and a little time.
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Post by cfesmire on Oct 27, 2007 21:07:26 GMT 1
Great find Peter, I've always wanted to do something aviation related too but the lack of stuff in 1/87 has always stopped me. Sounds like you have a good start. I'll be anxious to see your progress.
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Post by Alan on Aug 21, 2008 20:49:02 GMT 1
Hi all. Just jumping in and out as I have had a very busy time of things lately. I haven't actually done any modelling since my society's annual general meeting back in may! Anyway, I was out doing some window shopping at my local model shop and I found in the middle of a stack of aircraft kits a Revell kit for a DC3 in 1/90th scale. Is there likely to be a lot of difference in size between this and the Walthers version in 1/87th?
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Post by only87 on Aug 25, 2008 23:20:40 GMT 1
I'm not sure but I would suspect that the kit is the same and that they're all 1/90 in scale. Mold swapping and re-issues from different companies are very popular in the aircraft kit sector. I think Roco had also released the DC-3 in their Minitanks range a while ago.
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Post by Tatoun on Aug 27, 2008 21:02:00 GMT 1
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Post by swampdaddy on Aug 30, 2008 13:10:26 GMT 1
Hi: Side by side you would see quite a bit of difference between the 1/87 and 1/90 DC-3; but, I myself would not know the difference if only one plane was present. The Walters DC-3 (probably the same as the ROCO one) comes with both the military rear door for cargo, and the much smaller civilian airliner door. IHC imported (and may still do so) to the USA a small hanger with two small planes, Cessna & Piper cub in 1/87. They also had a small control tower available. And, a futher kit of 4 civilian single seaters; and, a second kit of 4 gliders, or sailplanes as they call them. Go here to the IHC site: www.ihc-hobby.com/cgi-bin/bsc.cgi?sn=O5866806VG143C5079435C065044O7 to see a picture of the control tower though all "airport" items are currently out of stock. 2080 small airport control tower 2081 small hanger w/2 private aircraft 2084 6-pack of small airplanes These are the ones I have; perhaps eBay would help you find them from someonewho never built them. Obviously 2082, 2083 were in the series; perhaps, one of them was the pack of sail planes. These IHC items would form the basis for a small bush airport. Harry
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Post by Alan on Aug 30, 2008 22:01:29 GMT 1
I think I would have to get a hold of one anyway, seeing as the few real ones in the UK can no longer fly with passengers anymore. Apparently there is a new European Union ruling that requires the DC3s to have oxygen mask systems fitted (Despite the DC3s being unable to fly high enough to require oxygen!), and emergency escape chutes (Despite the entrance door being 4 foot from the ground!).
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Post by swampdaddy on Aug 31, 2008 5:09:48 GMT 1
Well, DC-3s shouldn't be carrying passengers anymore. Last one I flew was a local flight in 1962 between Dallas and Waco, Texas and it pumped oil from the left engine the whole way. You were seat balanced in those days and I pointed this out to the stewardess who kind of laughed and said that was normal.
Well the airport in Waco was pretty primitive and her answer did NOT suit me and I took a bus back to Dallas a few days later to continue my flight to the west coast.
Rugged airplane, time for them all to be in museums.
Harry
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Post by carl54 on Dec 1, 2008 1:24:46 GMT 1
HI all, new member that just joined. I have some AHM airplane kits made in 1974 for 8 dollars plus shipping. I have 7 Me-109s, 14 A6M5s and 15 KI-61-1s. They are marked as 1/87. Great price for collector kits. If you are interested. Please send an email to cjmeurer5@aol.com Thanks, Carl
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Post by Cor_DutchArt on Dec 2, 2008 17:47:35 GMT 1
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Post by Alan on Dec 14, 2008 1:29:55 GMT 1
Rugged airplane, time for them all to be in museums. Harry I have just remembered something I saw on TV a few years ago about an airline in South Africa that had a group of DC3s. They actually upgraded them by fitting new aviaonics and adding turboprop engines. Should make an interesting modelling subject! Anyway, I was wondering if anyone here has attempted to kitbash any 1/72 scale kits into 1/87?
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Post by toadwerks on Apr 14, 2009 14:52:56 GMT 1
Does anyone know if any of the Heller Cadet series kits were closer to 1:87 than the 1:100 claimed in the catalogues or the boxes? There were some really interesting helicopter kits offered in this line. Todd
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Post by hemicuda on Jul 28, 2009 4:35:32 GMT 1
I had bought some Hot Wings branded planes a few years ago that I dug out, and found the Bell Jet Ranger helicopter, the Cessna 172, Piper Cherokee, and Beechcraft Bonanza to be close to, or near 1/87. Of course the landing gear on the planes does not look proportionate, but they can be found for low $$ on ebay or by Google. Here is a place that sells them for example: www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/2519
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Post by Cor_DutchArt on Aug 3, 2009 11:55:47 GMT 1
Looking at the model Powers site I saw two 1/87 planes: And this. I flies but it's no plane... Predator USAF RQ-1 w/ Hellfire Missiles
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Post by cfesmire on Aug 6, 2009 22:32:21 GMT 1
I like that Cessna Cor. But I've been wanting an older biplane. I did happen to notice on the Williams Bros. site that they have a few plane models in 1/87 but getting a response from them is impossible. Bottom of page: www.williamsbrothersmodelproducts.com/planes.html
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