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Post by ponyman on Dec 9, 2007 4:27:39 GMT 1
Bill C: Your right I just mentioned it in passing but here's the right thread. Bill stated in his latest grade crossing article that scuttlebutt has it that a major model manufacturer is talking with the General on which models can be made. With that said as much as everyone would like to see a new Impala I don't think it will happen. I think looking at GM's record we can only hope for pickups, suv's, crossovers, minivans, vans, and maybe some of the larger sedans or wagons. I would love to see a good 40's to 60's and 90's to present suburban and a 67 to 72 k5 blazer, and a late model p/u crewcab or 1 ton dually . I hope I'm wrong. Any thoughts Bill? Any chance of a 2007 Impala?
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Post by hofan on Dec 9, 2007 12:42:01 GMT 1
Hello: I think an acceptable number of classic 4 door GM models pass the tube test. Especially those old Cadillacs even the coupes of them. It seems to me that manufacturers are looking for those type of cars( 4 door sedans) because they make different variations of them(Police,Taxis Fire department and other types) I remember that Bill said that even the Model Power Olds 442 passed this test so there should be quite a number that can be made? Regards
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Post by BillC on Dec 9, 2007 16:15:11 GMT 1
I did some quick checking and the Impala (either the current or previous generation) passes the choke tube test with room to spare. FYI: If the overall length of the real vehicle is more than 4980 mm or 196 inches, it should pass.
However, I believe the vehicles being discussed at this time are generally classic pre-WWII to 1950s cars with a few noteworthy cars from the 1960s.
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Post by ponyman on Dec 10, 2007 0:02:05 GMT 1
I did some quick checking and the Impala (either the current or previous generation) passes the choke tube test with room to spare. FYI: If the overall length of the real vehicle is more than 4980 mm or 196 inches, it should pass. However, I believe the vehicles being discussed at this time are generally classic pre-WWII to 1950s cars with a few noteworthy cars from the 1960s. Bill thats great on the new Impala , but if you have any input could you suggest some modern GM models after all there are numerous 40's to 60's chevy's out there already aren't there.
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Post by hovehicle on Dec 10, 2007 1:39:33 GMT 1
Bryan,
You're probably right about GM and what might get made in HO. I would suspect that pickups, vans ans SUV's might be the better choice but I think that the 2007 or 2008 Impala has a chance from what I heard from a new manufacturer to HO (diecast) that I reported on at iHobbyexpo in October. The HO rep told me that a GM rep came to him and asked him about a possible vehicle in HO. Of course, this is all speculation. For now, we shall wait and see.
Vito L.
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Post by JM82 on Dec 10, 2007 15:09:57 GMT 1
Vito, who is the new manufactuer to H.O.? Or is it under wraps for now?
I'd love to see a 2007/08 Suburban.
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Post by stanhas87 on Dec 10, 2007 18:35:09 GMT 1
Dear All:
More oldsmobiles, please. They are nearly inexistent in 1/87, and the sole 4-door sedan from the 1960's which approaches this scale was made by a diecast manufacturer. Buick and Olds are my favorite GM makes, up to 1996 for the former and 1992 for the latter.
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Post by BillC on Dec 11, 2007 14:04:22 GMT 1
Personally, the only modern Oldsmobile that comes to mind is the Aurora. It was such a significant departure in GM design as well as being the last full-size Oldsmobile that it might merit production.
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Post by DavidJohnson on Dec 11, 2007 20:15:51 GMT 1
Personally, the only modern Oldsmobile that comes to mind is the Aurora. It was such a significant departure in GM design as well as being the last full-size Oldsmobile that it might merit production. Or the 1970's Cutlass two door coupe which was highly popular in its day - that is if you consider it modern. Since I was an adult at the time, I consider it modern I hope your earlier reference to GM models from the 50's and 60's comes true. GM's US cars from 1946 to 1970 are my most desired category.
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Post by Cor_DutchArt on Dec 11, 2007 20:25:05 GMT 1
The '62 Buick Skylark for me! As well as the '74 Olds 88 Delta
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Post by BillC on Dec 12, 2007 1:40:52 GMT 1
GM cars from the 60s would most likely be cars like the 1963 Buick Riviera, 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado or 1965 Chevrolet Impala, which still holds the record for most sales of a single model in a single year in the history of the automobile.
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Post by hovehicle on Dec 12, 2007 3:06:59 GMT 1
Bill,
I like how you think! The Aurora is a nice looking car, and since Oldsmobile is probably my favorite GM division, I would vote a resounding yes for it. All of the cars you listed above are great choices and I would love to see them in HO too. The only modern Buick (post 1960) is from Herpa with the Grand National. Any modern GM vehicle is welcome, as long as it's a quality casting with good colors.
Vito L.
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Post by stanhas87 on Dec 12, 2007 5:06:11 GMT 1
Dear Bill:
I hope that my memory is not going in circles (age, you know), but I remeber that the rwd Cutlass was offered six months later than the Chevy, Buick and Pontiac coupe models were discontinued (and converted to fwd). Is also quite known that nearly 10 years after this model was discontinued, it was the most stolen vehicle. But I know, it may appeal the American Market only.
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Post by BillC on Dec 12, 2007 6:31:38 GMT 1
Model Power's 1969 Olds 4-4-2 will have to satisfy those who want a Cutlass from that era.
The '62 Skylark is too short, which also eliminates the F-85 and Tempest. I have gone though over 100 GM cars and light trucks to see which ones will fit and so many of the interesting cars don't make the cut. No Corvairs, no Corvettes, no Camaros, no Vegas, etc.
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Post by mstar on Dec 12, 2007 10:35:49 GMT 1
The 1963 Buick Riviera, 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado and 1965 Chevrolet Impala sound great. I didn't know them, but looked them up, and they look great. Especially the Toronado. The Aurora is also an interesting vehicle. What I also think looks interesting is the 1998 Buick Riviera. I don't know if it's large enough, and I have the feeling that this car was a flop in reality, however, it is not "normal".
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