What would you like to see made in 1/87?

[jtdaven]

What real life car would you like to see made in 1/87 scale?

Here is my list:

Peugeot 407 (brand new)
Peugeot 406 Coupe
Citroen SM
Citroen DS LeDandy Coupe
Renault Laguna II
New Renault Megane
New Renault Espace
Saab 93
Jaguar S Type
Jaguar XK8
1995-2000 Buick Riviera
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac WRX
Upcoming Chrysler 300C
Chrysler 300M
Chrysler Sebring/Dodge Stratus
Ford Thunderbird 2001-
Lincoln LS
Pontiac Grand Prix
Pontiac Bonneville
Saturn L Series
Saturn Vue
Volvo S60

Why is it there aren't more modern American prototypes that have made it into production as 1/87 scale models?

What vehicles would you like to see made?

[Albert]

I would like to see Italian cars like the new Fiat Panda, Alfa 147, Maserati Quattroporte, Lancia Thesis...
Japanese like the Nissan 350Z or Toyota Celica, Avensis...

And I wish we would offered Korean cars. I would like to see Hyundais or Daewos in my layouts but I am afraid these will never be released

[skunk]

Daewoo Nexia/Cielo/Racer/LeMans would be pretty easy to make out of Herpa Opel Kadett. Leganza/Nubira/Lanos would be tougher. While I too would love Hyundais and such for layouts, I cannot imagine that there are a lot of collectors out there for Korean cars. Hopefully I'm wrong.

My list is short:


PEUGEOT 505

please, somebody with CAD/CAM...
make me a nice one. (honestly, I'll be happy with a very bad one. Oh, and a 1966 Alfa Giulia Sprint Bertone would be nice. Why doesn't anyone make this classic?, there should be a huge market for it.

[jtdaven]

How could I forget the Peugeot 505! That is one that is conspicuous in its absence, since virtually every other model and variation of Peugeot has been made by MFM!

[Alan]

For me, it would have to be any car from when Britain had a car industry
Austin/MG/Rover Metro
Austin/MG/Rover Maestro
Austin/MG/Rover Montego
Rover 200/400/600/800
Perhaps some of the latest Rovers and MGs as well! ;D

[Eric]

For me, anything that is correctly converted to 1/87 will do as long as it is not the second (third / fourth / fifth ) version of a model that has already been done by someone else. I can understand that every manufacturer wants to be able to offer a broad line of products and that they 'must' include some models (like the VW Golf / Mercedes E for instance) but I would like to see some originality !

Brekina has had the guts to release the 917K this year, a model that was certainly not to be expected if you look at their product range.....

Some ideas for 2004:

Jaguar XJ 220
Ferrari 400i
Lexus iS 300
Renault Fuego
Toyota Celica

[Mark Maticek]

I echo Eric and Albert's desires for more Japanese and Italian autos. I was hopeful when Kato started production of their 1/87 line, but it was not to be.

My wish list:

Any Formula One car (how about starting with a 1967 Gurney Eagle-Westlake and a Lotus-Ford 49B)
A current F3 model (same model, lots of different marking options)
1991 Lotus Elan
Lamborghini Murcielago (Audi promos?)
Chevrolet Corvette C5
Honda Civic
Ducatti motorcycle
A "stretched" limo (Lincoln, Mercedes?)
Any Alfa Romeo Spyder
Ferrari Enzo and 360

[stanhas87]

Dear Sirs:

I would like to see the following vehicles modeled on 1/87 scale:

1979 Dodge St Redgis
1983 Dodge Diplomat/Plymouth Gran Fury
2003 Mercury Marauder/Gran Marquis
1974 Dodge Monaco
Any full size station wagon.

I know that no one may do these,but I could be wrong.

[skunk]

There is always the 1977 Monaco by Busch/Praliné. I saw a picture somewhere on the web of one that had been made into a station wagon, which didn't seem to difficult.

The Walthers 1998 Crown Victoria shouldn't be too hard to convert into a Mercury, although creating the proper grille may prove complicated. It is possible that someone in the US might produce a photoetched transformation kit, and if not, then they should!

This website (Ingemar Nääs) is very good for finding out who might have made that elusive model, I find it an excellent complement to 87thscale.info:
www.geocities.com/MotorCity/9946/modelist.html

[stanhas87]

Dear Skunk:

Thank you for the info.The 1974 Dodge Monaco has a different body than the 1977 Monaco,and since the former is being done by Johnny Lightning and Corgi (it was the Blues Brothers car) it may be possible that it MAY graduate do an HO scale car.

[Christian]

I like this thread, it gives me ideas. ;D

The question is of course, whether you want those made by Herpa, CMW and the like or if resin kits (or built-ups for that matter) could suffice. One of the cars mentioned here is already being cast at this very moment...

[keroliver]

I found this data about the Peugeot 505:
Peugeot 505 Focus 95.361
Peugeot 505 Break Focus 95.371

Focus is in the list of manufacturers:
Focus Fons Custers, The Netherlands model-listing A range of more than 300 resin kits, out of production.

see: Focus Modell Parts / see: BdB / see: Al's Favourites

Yep, I confirm:
95361 Peugeot 505 1984
95371 Peugeot 505 Break 1985
95373 Peugeot 505 Ambulance 1981

You know, when I see this... I am thinking.
Thanks to internet, www.87thscale.info/ , and the (super) webmasters, we have a wonderful tool, that can allow us to negociate with the manufacturers themselves.

Let me explain, that is, if, let's say, 10 to 20 of us join together and agree to pre-order some models, we can suggest the manufacturers to produce a short limited collection for us. Is it a dream? or reasonable?

((I have worked, as financial, in a French model company, producing kits and finished models. Usually, the main problem is about decals. They are expensive and the minimum order is about 200 to 300 units.
Most of the times, this data decides if the model will be produced or not. ))

But for our concerns, Peugeot 505, and so on... there is no decals... Just a master, that needs to be cast. And actually, all of us can deal very well with accessories to fit and to suit this master. So ?? What's next ??

See the Peugeot 505 and Focus: Obviously there are many "known" people in this company:
How about to contact one of them and try to deal with one of them ??


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Although Focus is considered to have been a one man company, there were actually a lot of people helping out. The team that created the Focus / Al's Favourites / Greg's Garage models consisted of:

Bouwe de Boer, Holland - Dutch, French and English cars, trucks and buses.
Fons Custers, Holland - American and European cars, trucks and ambulances.
Heinz-Gerhard Haubrich, Germany - German cars.
Johannes Martens, Holland - Trucks, buses and firetrucks.
Ruud Potter, Holland - Military vehicles.
Ruurd Schellaars, Holland - American and French trucks.
Richard van der Voort, Holland - Special vehicles.
Ernie van de Wal, Holland - European cars.
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[Eric]

Contacting one of the former Focus guys would have been an option if they would still have the masters and / or moulds. As far as I know most of the Focus moulds went to Brekelmans Modelbouw in the Netherlands (who are now offering a a few models from the vast Focus range, limited to Dutch prototypes) so it is not as easy as asking for a new series of castings.
Besides that, the moulds must be pretty worn by now, I guess that a new master and new moulds are the better option in this case !

[Christian]

keroliver said:

See the Peugeot 505 and Focus: Obviously there are many "known" people in this company:
How about to contact one of them and try to deal with one of them ??

That would - sadly - be a waste of time.
Assuming that Brekelmans has the Peugeot master (or what's left of it) it is generally of no use to talk to them about such things.

At one point I got a bit frustrated with all their DAF models and plainly offered to take 50 (!) Ford Taurus station wagon kits - I never even got a reply.

Then again, I'll bring this up the next time I have a chance to speak with Mr Haubrich. Maybe he knows of the whereabouts of the master...

[Christian]

Most of my favourite cars will probably never be available in 1/87:

1954 Kaiser Manhattan
1975 Bristol 412
1979 AC 3000 ME
1954 Borgward Le Mans Coupé
1987 Maserati Royale