jim68cuda
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Post by jim68cuda on Oct 1, 2012 2:33:22 GMT 1
I've noticed that in the Walthers sales flyer, there was shown a late 1960's International Harvester cabover truck. I remember Wiking using this mold back in the 70's but haven't seen it for years. I tried to order, but Walthers is now sold out of this truck. I have also noticed that Walthers, as well as Minicars87, both list a three truck set of mid 1950's Chevrolet trucks. I haven't ordered this set yet, but spent close to $50 a couple years ago to get the original early 60's issue of the 55-57 Chevy stake body truck. It looks like they may have reissued some other models as well.
I have two questions. Is the International Harvester truck discontinued again, or is it still available (and merely temporarily unavailable at Walthers)?
Also, has anyone heard if there are any plans at Wiking to re-issue their 1964 Chevrolet Chevelle coupe?
And while we are on the subject of Wiking, I notice that Minicars87 shows a 65 Mustang convertible, and Walthers shows a 65 Mustang coupe, both by Wiking. Are these the same molds as the Busch Mustangs? How do they compare to the Busch Mustangs?
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Post by swampdaddy on Oct 1, 2012 5:02:51 GMT 1
Well, long, long ago I got the Chevy flat bed and stake bed trucks. And, I got two Chevy 2-axle tractors which were definitely the bigger tractor cab. Wonder if the tractors are back out too?
Swamp Daddy
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Post by Sylvain on Oct 1, 2012 6:49:34 GMT 1
Are these the same molds as the Busch Mustangs? How do they compare to the Busch Mustangs? No, these are completely different models; Wiking and Busch are two completely different companies. For what I've seen, Wiking Mustangs are not bad not better than Busch Mustangs. They're just different. Also, has anyone heard if there are any plans at Wiking to re-issue their 1964 Chevrolet Chevelle coupe? For my part, I've not heard of it, but Wiking Chevelle can easily be found on eBay, and not so expensive (between 5 and 10 euros). |
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Post by jim68cuda on Oct 1, 2012 13:02:06 GMT 1
Well, long, long ago I got the Chevy flat bed and stake bed trucks. And, I got two Chevy 2-axle tractors which were definitely the bigger tractor cab. Wonder if the tractors are back out too? Swamp Daddy The three Chevy trucks that are sold in a set of three and can be seen on Walthers website, include the flat bed, the stake body and the two axle tractor with trailer. I would like to see Wiking re-release the 64 Chevelle because I would hope they would do some more interesting and more correct Chevrolet colors this time. |
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Post by Sylvain on Oct 1, 2012 13:20:39 GMT 1
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Post by jim68cuda on Oct 1, 2012 13:28:12 GMT 1
Yes, the yellow isn't bad on the Wiking 64 Chevelle, and the tan or beige isn't bad either. The Dark red 64 Chevelle is quite a bit darker than a 60's Chevy red should be , but it still looks good. But the red one is the most difficult to find. Most of the Wiking 64 Chevelles I see are a couple different shades of gray. I would like to see black or dark blue or a metallic color.
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Post by jim68cuda on Oct 9, 2012 3:06:44 GMT 1
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Post by swampdaddy on Oct 9, 2012 7:43:15 GMT 1
Sometimes getting old has it's drawbacks. I was traveling in 1968 to Omaha, NB when passing the Des Plaines, IL hobby shop which I noted was open late nite. Stopping in (wife sleeping in the car the whole time), I picked up a bunch of Wiking of that time, including the Chevy flatbed, stake truck and 3 Chevy 2-axle tractors. All around $3 each (terribly expensive for that time). No individual boxes either, all loose from bigger boxes Wiking shipped in. Now, the new set is $46 plus on sale. WOW. But, now you get a load on the flatbed and a trailer for the tractor. LOL. Still good looking vehicles. Swamp Daddy  |
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Post by stanhas87 on Oct 9, 2012 22:36:49 GMT 1
Dear All:
I have the Wiking Chevrolet truck with the stakebed body,and a cab of it - missing wheels,chassis and interior,this thanks to MVU (late 1990's).And recently,I got the Cabover version;this is a semi tractor.Despite its age,it is a fantastically well made unit.I also have the International as a tow truck,with a very long tow hook.Recently I bid on a selection of Wiking trucks which included the International,but got outbid.If they re-issue that,I certainly will get it.I been getting a fair amount of HO trucks lately.
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Post by jim68cuda on Oct 10, 2012 4:20:57 GMT 1
Sometimes getting old has it's drawbacks. I was traveling in 1968 to Omaha, NB when passing the Des Plaines, IL hobby shop which I noted was open late nite. Stopping in (wife sleeping in the car the whole time), I picked up a bunch of Wiking of that time, including the Chevy flatbed, stake truck and 3 Chevy 2-axle tractors. All around $3 each (terribly expensive for that time). No individual boxes either, all loose from bigger boxes Wiking shipped in. Now, the new set is $46 plus on sale. WOW. But, now you get a load on the flatbed and a trailer for the tractor. LOL. Still good looking vehicles. Swamp Daddy Now that makes this set of three Chevy trucks by Wiking sound like a bargain. In 1968, the base price on a new Mustang convertible was $2950.00. Add a zero and you're probably pretty close the base price on a 2012 Mustang convertible. In 1968, depending on where you lived, $20,000.00 to $40.000.00 got you an average house. In 2012, add a zero and your pretty close to the average price of a house in many parts of the US. In 1968 a Wiking Chevy truck was $3.00. In 2012 add a zero and $30.00 would be the expected price, but you can get a set of three for under $50 on sale at Walthers. What a bargain!!! |
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Post by swampdaddy on Oct 10, 2012 5:35:43 GMT 1
jim68cuda: Here is the catch 22 in your interesting logic on pricing - add a "zero" to the wages you made in 1968 (which was $4.10 for me per hour) and you get $41.00 per hour (which I've never made even with overtime).
Basically wages rarely keep up with price increases.
My 1966 Mustang (with the then two expensive options of Air Conditioning ($310) and automatic transmission ($195 over manual 3-speed)) was $3250 which was what I was driving to Nebraska in 1968. I drove that car until 1993 daily when it literally was ready for the junkyard though I kept it around for parts picking for another used 1967 Mustang I had. It did not make the junkyard until 2008 when I moved. Think of what I saved. LOL.
Swamp Daddy
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Post by swampdaddy on Oct 13, 2012 8:10:39 GMT 1
Though it took awhile, I located and photographed all my old (1968 purchase) Viking Chevy trucks; and, IH trucks bought over the years. Go here: s258.photobucket.com/albums/hh280/swampdaddy_01/Old%20Viking%20US%20style%20trucks/Note that I have an IH cabover as a stakebed similar to the Chevy stakebed. Probably there was an IH flatbed I never bought. Additional colors too. The IH tractor pulling the 20' container always had the grey softop Trans Container on it. The red CTI container shown on one of them came on some other Viking truck. The Two axle IH tow truck was offered for a number of years probably ending in the mid-70s; I wonder if this will be released. The hook is thick and looks like part of a paper clip. The IH low-boy trailer had a dozer on it (who knows which box this is now in). The Chevy trucks are interesting to compare to the modern ones pictured in another thread. Many colors in the flatbed and stakebed were available. The two axle tractors were only in 4-colors back then (1968) when I got them. Red, Blue, light and dark Gray. The Red tractor is stock Viking, the Blue one facing backwards had a 5th wheel from some ROCO military truck crudely glued on to use other trailers (this might be the first time I modified a vehicle (LOL). The Gray tractor at the right has had the stock wheels replaced with some larger wheels from a ROCO 2-1/2 ton truck I used in some kitbash. In a splurge of "modernization" at some point I went back and painted all turn signals orange (regardless of whether the originals had orange ones or not), bumpers chrome, grilles chrome, taillights red, etc. I never have thrown anything away, Swamp Daddy |
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Post by cfesmire on Oct 13, 2012 13:42:23 GMT 1
I am also glad to see Wiking reissuing the IH and Chevy trucks. They hold an interest for me since they were the first 1/87 vehicles I ever owned. I do believe the Chevy in particular has an issue with proportions albeit very insignificant and entirely acceptable. I still own those Wikings I got at age 12 and treasure them.
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Post by alcarter on Oct 13, 2012 16:06:29 GMT 1
Maybe I missed something - is Wiking actually re-issuing the IH truck(s)?
I picked up a set of the 3 chevy's, but haven't seen the IH trucks around, although I have one of those "big hook" tow trucks stashed away.
Al Carter
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Post by swampdaddy on Oct 13, 2012 21:16:04 GMT 1
Well, in the early 50's when I switched from S-scale to HO scale (that old 5x10 ping-pong table in the basement just didn't hold enough S track to satisfy me) the only things available were some blobby pot metal cars. The best of the lot might have been the Dyna Model bull dozers. Then there was a large line of 'plaster cars' from Oddo's and others; but, they were quite fragile, soaked up paint like it was going out of style and often turned back to powder no matter what you did. Varney turned out some decent stuff in plastic; but, the line never grew much. Ulrich had a few generic diecast trucks which were nice for the day; but, quite generic now and very plain. Mostly model train manufacturers adding a few items on the side. So when European HO started appearing over here in the form of Viking trucks I bought a lot of them pretending they were like US trucks. While these were useable with the trains they were a model line in themselves for collectors, etc. And when the Chevy's and IH's came out I sure bought what I could find and could afford. Finally, decades later, with Herpa and Promotex (and others) US trucks and cars started coming in with a wide variety of prototypes; and, I stopped buying European types that I did not see over here except occasionally for collecting purposes but not for the layout. The early Viking Chevy and IH trucks were the first decent highly detailed US types I'd seen; and, like others I hold them dear. Can't wait to pick up a few more as they come out. Swamp Daddy  |
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