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Post by thekitsguy on Dec 26, 2004 2:13:24 GMT 1
Wondering if anyone may know , if any company ever produced a 1/87 th scale ford sedan either 2 door or 4 door circa 1949/1950...this particular car is being sought after by my Uncle who is looking to complete a diorama...if any one has any information regarding this it would be deeply appreciated if you could contact myself at lornepoole@shaw.ca...an unbuilt or built kit would be fine and if you know of anyone having on of these for sales Iwould love to hear from you as the wonderful world of 1/87th scale models is still rather new to me thank-you
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stanhas87
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Post by stanhas87 on Dec 26, 2004 4:54:27 GMT 1
Dear thekitsguy:
Alloy forms did offered a metal kit of the two door version of a 1949 Ford. In order to find it, get to Walther's website and this people may have it in stock.
Nick K
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Post by cfesmire on Dec 26, 2004 5:11:58 GMT 1
I have a '49 Ford woody that I just picked up made by Kinsmart that is 1/81. A very nice looking model. It is however, one of the pull back and release type toys that has a black box that hangs under the chassis housing the mechanicals.
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Post by BillC on Dec 27, 2004 5:43:54 GMT 1
One of the new Woodland Scenics mini-scenes will have what looks to be a Ford of that vintage (it might be a '51).
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Post by 50scars on Jan 1, 2005 2:02:38 GMT 1
Alloy Forms has a 49 Club coupe, but it doesn't have the side moldings that all 49-50 Fords had. The 51 Deluxe didn't have the side moldings, but the grill is so different, you'd have to do some work to make it correct. I would think that with a little bit of bondo or something, it would be pretty easy to make a sedan out of it. There was a place called STONEY MOUNTAIN CLASSIC CASTINGS, in Castiac, Cal that made a bunch of otherwise unobtainable cars, but I called the phone number and discovered that they were not using that number anymore. I have a 49 Ford stationwagon that says KINSMARK on the bottom of it. It is assembled and painted. I have no idea where it came from. It claims 1/82 on the bottom.
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stanhas87
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Post by stanhas87 on Jan 1, 2005 2:43:51 GMT 1
Dear 50scars:
The Kinsmart piece is sold as IHC model which claims that this vehicle is 1/87 scale, along with other larger-scale cars. Kinsmart make a whole range of vehicles from 1/64 to N gauge; larger scale cars are also offered.
SMCC is not in business anymore. Its owners are back in business under Cutter's name; more info avaliable at the members area.
So far I know, no 1951 Ford was molded in 1/87 scale.
Nick K
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 3, 2005 9:31:12 GMT 1
Alloy Forms has a 49 Club coupe, but it doesn't have the side moldings that all 49-50 Fords had Are you sure? I mean, I've always thougt the 1949 Alloy Forms was really accurate…
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Post by superba on Jan 3, 2005 12:09:22 GMT 1
Are they still available. They are listed in the Walther's catalog, but it appears that most are not in stock in their inventory.
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Post by cfesmire on Jan 3, 2005 13:21:18 GMT 1
I have found most everything from Alloy Forms available at Jaks Industries: www.jaksind.com/
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Post by 50scars on Jan 3, 2005 16:08:26 GMT 1
Sylvain:
Yes that is correct, the Alloy Forms 49 Ford does not have any side moldings, which all 49 and 50 Fords had. The external differences between the Deluxe (cheap line) and the Custom (the up scale one) were the trim on the front fender. On the Deluxe, that little piece was simply a continuation of the molding profile to a point. On the 49 Custom it was slightly larger, and I'd have to check the exact nomenclature, but it said Ford Custom I believe in script. The 50 Custom had block printed CUSTOM in the middle of the enlarged spear. The 51 had Custom above the center line, and the trim wrapped all the way around the rear of the car. The 51 Deluxe had no side trim, just s piece of trim fairly high on the front fender, I don't recall what it said, and if it was a V-8, it had the V-8 emblem on the fender with it. Other differences between the 3 years are 49 parking lights were a tear drop shape the wend off theend of the grill center bar onto the fender. Trunk handle was chrome and said FORD in block letters, painted in the chrome. Individual block letters said FORD around the raised portion of the grill on the hood. 50 Parking light wa a large chrome assembly that took the center bar all the way around the curve oif the fender, and had a rectangular lens set in the chrome between the center bar extension and the bumper, and Ford badges on the hood and trunk instead of block letters, The trunk handle was a painted stamping with a small chrome block housing the lock in the center. 51 had a double ball grill, and the hood and grill were flat, not raised in the center as 49-50 was. 51 taillights had a chrome flute over the crease where the 49-50 just had the crease in the fender, the trunk handle was s simpler flat painted steel part, with chrome trim around the trailing edge. Parking lights were very similar to the 50, except the lens was round.
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 3, 2005 23:30:44 GMT 1
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Post by 50scars on Jan 4, 2005 0:19:54 GMT 1
Looks fantastic. I see you painted the correct molding on the car.
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Post by 50scars on Jan 5, 2005 2:19:04 GMT 1
The picture of Sylvain's 49 made me go look at mine. I have 2 of them. I built one, and as I recall it was nice and smooth, all I did was clean up a little flash, and paint it. It is without the side trim, just like the one in the picture on the package. I have a second one, unbuilt. It looks like someone sandblasted it, but I can see a faint scratch of a molding there. I immagine that when I fill in the pits, the molding will disappear. Maybe I can use some of the fill stuff to build up the molding. My suspicion is that the tooling became worn, and when they repaired it, they lost the chrome trim.
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 5, 2005 10:15:07 GMT 1
That's why I was surprised. For me, the side moldings were on the Alloy Forms model, and all I remember is having painted them, but not created them. But they are may be too faint, that's true. What you say about the tooling should be right.
Too bad. It's really a nice model of a nice car.
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