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Post by DavidJohnson on Jan 26, 2009 1:50:24 GMT 1
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Post by swampdaddy on Jan 26, 2009 2:57:37 GMT 1
Dave: I keep getting a 404 (page not found) error on that URL even whenI make sure it's all patched in. Post it again. Harry  |
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Post by DavidJohnson on Jan 26, 2009 4:50:08 GMT 1
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Post by hemicuda on Jan 26, 2009 5:39:14 GMT 1
It's funny when magazines try to be cute and come out with these types of articles-provided the cars were really, truely bad. However, the mid to late 80's to current cars are not all that bad, the only one that I might agree with would be the AMC. Vegas can easily be converted to V8's and put on the dragstrip, and the others are OK (maybe not the Citation so much) as beater used cars.
Kind of related, but not picked as a "Best" was the Suzuki X90--that very weird car/SUV type thingy that tanked in sales. It was made fun of, and forgotten, but now the Smart car is supposed to be "in" and acceptable?
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Post by jim68cuda on Jan 31, 2009 3:57:28 GMT 1
the Suzuki X90--that very weird car/SUV type thingy that tanked in sales. It was made fun of, and forgotten, but now the Smart car is supposed to be "in" and acceptable? I seriously don't get the concept of the Smart car. It's under powered, gets about the same gas mileage as a Dodge Neon, but is only about half the size. Sure, its easy to park, but you buy a car for the time you spend IN it, not the time spent with it sitting parked and un-occupied. My next door neighbor has two of the ugly little clown cars parked on one side of his two car garage. I haven't seen his Camaro or Tahoe lately, so I assume both were traded in. Not what I would call a Smart move. |
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Post by hemicuda on Jan 31, 2009 18:57:03 GMT 1
'68cuda, off topic, but if your avatar is your real car, you must have bought plenty of the Tommy Boy '67 GTX's? ;D
I have always lusted after the '70/'71 hemicuda, and bought a bunch of the Magnusson/Walther's kits, with some still not opened, and since this was car related and 1/87 scale, I named my nickname here after this car.
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Post by hemicuda on Jan 31, 2009 19:13:37 GMT 1
And at least 2 of these are available in 1/87 There are actually 6 of these available, although not all exactly or pre-built; the Herpa Opel Omega is the Catera, Noch made a Ford Modeo, a scenics company made the Citation for HO scale and sold through Walther's as I remember them as a youth at my nearest train/hobby store, the Merkur was sold by Wiking (?) as the Ford Sierra, a 90-era Lincoln towncar exists in kit form, and someone here could clear up who made (makes?) it (although it might be a late 80's, so there might only be 5 of these "worst" available in 1/87 ;D), and High Speed/Schuco (?), and Malibu have the Thunderbird. I am surprised that we never got the Mustang II from Fresh Cherries, but am far more grateful that we did get the '71. |
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Post by hofan on Jan 31, 2009 21:05:29 GMT 1
a 90-era Lincoln towncar exists in kit form, and someone here could clear up who made (makes?) it (although it might be a late 80's, so there might only be 5 of these "worst" available in 1/87 Hello: No 90's Lincoln Town Car available. The one you are talking about is 87 Town Car made by BS Design but out of production now: www.87thscale.info/images/BSDesign8701.jpgRegards |
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Post by jim68cuda on Feb 1, 2009 6:25:52 GMT 1
'68cuda, off topic, but if your avatar is your real car, you must have bought plenty of the Tommy Boy '67 GTX's? ;D I have always lusted after the '70/'71 hemicuda, and bought a bunch of the Magnusson/Walther's kits, with some still not opened, and since this was car related and 1/87 scale, I named my nickname here after this car. The 67 Coronet 500 convertible in the photo is sitting in my garage next to my white 68 Barracuda fastback. My next project is towing my 68 Charger RT to the body shop for some extensive and expensive replacement of some rusty sheet metal. Yes, I did buy several of the Tommy Boy 67 GTX convertibles in 1/87 scale, and one in 1/25 scale. If they got the proportions right on the 1/25 scale GTX why couldn't they get it right on the 1/87 scale version? The front is barely recognizable. Compared to a Johnny Lightning 1/64 scale 67 GTX, the headlights on the 1/87 scale car are larger than the headlights on the 1/64 scale model. Whats up with that?? Incidently, my very first car back in my high school days in the 70's was a used blue 67 Plymouth Belvedere convertible that I bought for $425 with money earned from delivering newspapers. Appearance wise, it was almost a twin to the Tommy Boy GTX (only it had a little 318 under the hood). By the way, I too, have a couple of those Walthers/Magnuson resin 70 Cudas. My painting skills are lacking, so I was never real satisfied with the result. I hope you can make a better model Cuda than I. Jim |
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Post by Christian on Feb 1, 2009 17:39:50 GMT 1
Lists like that one are fun, but entirely subjective. The Contour (Mondeo) was in no way a bad car. I don't exactly know what they did to it to americanize it ... it was fine when it rolled off the European assembly lines. Maybe the price, but cars from this side of the pond aren't built cheap.
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Post by Sylvain on Feb 1, 2009 18:00:23 GMT 1
I must say I'm surprised to read about the Alliance: "The Alliance proved that Wisconsin workers could assemble a Renault with the same indifference to quality that was a hallmark of the French automotive industry"… Wow… You still write such things, over there?  |
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Post by superba on Feb 2, 2009 17:55:21 GMT 1
They do, but typical of most articles in the US press, this article is filled with errors. So lets assume the French insult is an error to.
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Post by hemicuda on Feb 3, 2009 5:12:11 GMT 1
"My painting skills are lacking, so I was never real satisfied with the result. I hope you can make a better model Cuda than I." No, mine look like crap!! Eagerly awaiting for the mystery '71!
Christian, the article is supposed to be funny, but is actually stupid. Come to think of it, Car and Driver can't publish a good magazine, so they resort to garbage like this!
I had mentioned before, there was nothing wrong with most of the cars on the list--they had put them on their 10-best lists and now, supposedly, regret doing so. The Mondeo was a good car originally, but for this article, the only problem was that it wasn't as big a car as the competition was--what a non-issue!
The Alliance, I don't know what was wrong with it, and the Citation, but both were, for the most part, 70's cars that were built in the 80's--old technology, but probably nothing wrong with them. The Vega, well, most any car from the 70's was just plain lacking, but even that car had a performance version from Cosworth. The Thunderbird was apparently a nice cruiser--not my cup of tea, but not a bad car from what I had heard.
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Post by Sylvain on Feb 3, 2009 9:25:42 GMT 1
So lets assume the French insult is an error to. Thanks for the answer, Joe! ;D |
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Post by hovehicle on Feb 4, 2009 3:04:28 GMT 1
Is the Renault Alliance made in HO by any French manufacturer? I almost forgot about that car being sold in the US. It would look good on my layout if I backdate to the 1980's.
Vito L.
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