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Post by h0collector on Oct 21, 2004 17:25:04 GMT 1
Hi everyone ! - finally back in the messageboard after a very long absence. (Thank you all for your concerns - I have written a few words about it in the member area). I have contacted Model Power to get an update about their many announced 1/87 vehicles, and I got a reply with a newsletter and brochure (pdf-file) which I have forwarded to 87thScale.info. Several of the American vehicles are scheduled to arrive in November, but some of them are cancelled or postponed: 69 Olds 4-4-2, 63 T-bird, 64 1/2 Mustang, 56 F-100 pick-up, 53 Eldorado, 57 Corvette, 2004 Hummer H2. I certainly hope that they are not cancelled, only postponed. Except for the Corvette and Mustang, they are important additions in 1/87 scale. I have sent another mail to Model Power asking if any of them are really cancelled. Bjarte
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Post by Sylvain on Oct 21, 2004 17:44:44 GMT 1
I have contacted Model Power to get an update about their many announced 1/87 vehicles, and I got a reply with a newsletter and brochure (pdf-file) Too bad about the postponed models. I was waiting for the 1963 T-Bird. But do you have pictures in the brochure of the other models?
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Post by h0collector on Oct 21, 2004 18:04:52 GMT 1
Sylvain - I have forwarded to you the mail from Model Power with a lot of pictures. I hope you could open that pdf-file. If anybody else would like a copy of that mail, just send me a note (nordvikb@online.no)
Bjarte
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Post by Sylvain on Oct 21, 2004 18:39:17 GMT 1
Well, Bjarte, many, many thanks again about sending me this brochure. Rather disappointing this news, I’m afraid. Most of the American cars of the 50’s and 60’s announced are "cancelled or postponed": no more 1963 T-Bird, no more 1948 Chrysler, no more 1953 Eldorado. Let's hope they will be only "postponed". The 1949 Mercury announced on Model Power website is not even in the list of cancelled models! Remains the 1965 Cobra, which is not a Ford Mustang fastback as I was hoping (announced was a "1965 Ford Cobra"), but another Shelby AC Cobra. Not looking bad, but another one? So is remaining the 1955 Chevy. Let’s hope it will be a 4-door sedan. Oh well…
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Post by h0collector on Oct 21, 2004 19:13:35 GMT 1
These remains also: 2003-04 Ford Thunderbird convertible 2003 Dodge Viper convertible 2002 Pontiac Firebird convertible 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS (not pictured in brochure)
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Post by cfesmire on Oct 22, 2004 3:06:24 GMT 1
Remains the 1965 Cobra, which is not a Ford Mustang fastback as I was hoping (announced was a "1965 Ford Cobra"), but another Shelby AC Cobra. Not looking bad, but another one? I would ask is the AC Cobra, any different than the original AC Ace roadster in any way or did Carrol Shelby simply drop a big V8 into it? Aside from suspension, transmission etc.. I mean the exterior dimensions, wheel base anything that would be visibly different.
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Post by BillC on Oct 22, 2004 5:52:50 GMT 1
If the model is a replica of the Shelby Cobra Mk. III (1965-1967) with the 427 CID Ford V8, the body is 8 inches wider and has large wheel arches and a hood scoop not found on the Ace.
Earlier Cobras were visually much more like the original Ace.
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Post by skunk on Oct 22, 2004 7:11:06 GMT 1
Is it possible that this Cobra mentioned above is the '65 Daytona Coupé? 'Cause that would be a very nice model for anyone, and for Le Mans collectors in particular.
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Post by h0collector on Oct 22, 2004 7:41:55 GMT 1
Today I got another mail from Model Power telling me that they hope to launch the postponed models (69 Olds etc.) during next year.
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Post by Sylvain on Oct 22, 2004 9:05:46 GMT 1
Is it possible that this Cobra mentioned above is the '65 Daytona Coupé? No, it's a Shelby Cobra 1965, very similar to the Herpa's model. Only available this time in blue with white stripes or in white with blue stripes. Let's hope the other models will really appear in 2005…
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Post by skunk on Oct 26, 2004 3:49:00 GMT 1
I would ask is the AC Cobra, any different than the original AC Ace roadster in any way or did Carrol Shelby simply drop a big V8 into it? Aside from suspension, transmission etc.. I mean the exterior dimensions, wheel base anything that would be visibly different. Chester, I took a number of pictures of an Ace and a Cobra displayed next to each other at a concours in NY. Sadly they were never developed, and I do not know which roll of film (amongst hundreds...) contains these particular images. I will naturally send you some copies as soon as I happen upon them. While I personally do not find it anywhere near as capturing as a Cobra, the Ace appears to me a much more balanced design. Still, the Cobra always gets my heart beating, as witnessed by the ginormous market in Cobra replicas. In my dreams I would probably prefer to own an Ace to a Cobra, but only because it soon gets tiresome to imagine people asking me whether my Cobra is real or a replica. No such doubt about an Ace: the cognoscenti would know, and nobody else would bother to ask. Meanwhile, in the real world, the Aceca (the coupé version of the original, Bristol-engined Ace) would be a pretty cool car to have in H0, no? I have also seen a lot of tantalizing pictures issued by the current, Malta based (!) AC works of a similarly configured Cobra Coupé, called the "Mamba":
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Post by h0collector on Nov 4, 2004 22:07:04 GMT 1
Several of the new models are now available at Model Power's web shop (see http://www.modelpower.com); 2003-04 T-bird, 2002 Firebird, 2003 Viper, Streetka, '65 Shelby Cobra, '61 Jag XK-E, '72 Alfa Spider etc.
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Post by Christian on Mar 1, 2005 19:03:56 GMT 1
Two questions, Bill you are probably predestined for these.
How does Model Power's (or Schuco's) ordering of the High Speed products work? Do they simply buy what's available in Hong Kong or do they say "We want a Hummer H2, please make one."? If the latter is the case, what is Model Powers position on the double developments?
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Post by stanhas87 on Mar 1, 2005 22:06:17 GMT 1
Dear Sirs:
Concerning Christian's question: all of these - Schuco,Model Power High Speed et all. Are not all these under Hongwell's umbrella? (or rather, is not Hongwell the one who manufactures the vehicles for these concerns?
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Post by BillC on Mar 4, 2005 4:51:37 GMT 1
First, to address Nick's comment, as far as I know, Hongwell and Highspeed are two different and unrelated companies.
However, it is quite common for Chinese diecast manufacturers to farm out the casting of various components, so it's quite likely that Hongwell is involved with the Highspeed models in some fashion, especially as it has the licenses to which the Highspeed/Schuco/Model Power packages refer.
Second, Highspeed's selection of new models is largely driven by the requests of its primary distributors (Schuco in Germany, Model Power in the U.S.). In fact, I presented several suggestions during my meeting with Model Power president Matthew Tager. Mr. Tager was quite enthusiastic about a couple, but that's no guarantee he will make them.
As to Model Power's position, I will assume you are asking if the U.S. models will be available in the Schuco package. I am sorry, but that's one question I cannot answer.
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