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Post by ki4cmj on Jan 20, 2007 23:13:44 GMT 1
Another thought..... is there a particular brand to buy?? I've found a lot of good deals on 1/64 Novas that are Johnny lightning, Hot wheels, Maisto and Jada. Sam
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Post by skunk on Jan 21, 2007 5:26:49 GMT 1
Count me in on this. I am mainly going to be doing Japanese cars, but maybe a 510 or such would look good in someone's scenery.
As for brands - pick the one which looks best, proportions etcetera. Also, it is best to choose a car without opening parts, as it requires a lot of work to correct. Then, do you want to cast it with headlights intact or do you prefer to add lenses when building.
Buy the best original there is. Saving $3 on something that takes an additional four hours to turn into something workable doesn't make sense.
I think that starting a thread for trading of casts would be a good idea, as long as the board editors don't think that it is somehow an issue.
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Post by ki4cmj on Jan 21, 2007 16:37:39 GMT 1
This bumper, grille and headlight issue is definitely something to think about. I know it would be easier, and save on mold material, to do it all at once so I'll have to think on that one. It would make for nicer looking models if the grille and bumpers were moulded seperate but for starters, I guess I'll get use to using the materials and then concentrate on breaking down the model into the seperate units for a kit later.
I'm getting real excited about this project and hope you guys, that already have experience, will help me out with this. The creation of the moulds and shrink appear to be the hard part so I'll probably be blasting a lot of questions at you as I want to do this right and make them look good so we'll be proud to put them on a layout.
I read where there was a problem with bubbles when trying to work from a small master. Has that issue been resolved yet?? I would like to start with 1/64 and go to 1/87.
I have a high CFM compressor that I can adapt to make the input a vacuum puller. I did this with a smaller compressor but the pull down time was more than 30 sec. so I think my larger unit will pull vacuum a lot faster. I'll have to adapt it and see what the rate is. Pouring and then pulling a vacuum is going to be a task but not impossible I don't think. I'll also have to build a chamber that is quick seal. This is going to be fun.
I got interested in doing something like this as I designed my rail layout. I am building it to be four local towns and there are junk yards, car dealerships, shopping areas, etc. so I'm going to need a lot of cars and pickups. Even bad models for the junkyards, so if I mess one up, it'll go to the junkyard.
I read where ya'll are using left over moulds as filler. That's a great idea. I'm thinking about a high speed shreader that will tear those old moulds up into very small pieces to mix with the remaining liquid material after the inital first part of the pour is completed (if there is time).
Please let me know about the 1/64 to 1/87 shrink as I want to go ahead and start looking for some models to buy as cores. Oh, btw the way, I just bought a really nice detailed '50 greyhound bus that I want to do. Hope someone has a need for that also.
Please don't get discouraged if I ask a lot of questions.
Sam
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Post by superba on Jan 21, 2007 22:48:31 GMT 1
First Row 64 Ford Counrty Squire 63 Ford Galaxie two door Hdtp 61 Ford Fairlane Four Door Sedan 64 ford Fairlane two door sedan 60 Ford Ranch Wagon 64 Mercury Maurader 64 Lincoln Continental 60 Lincoln Continental 2nd row 1962 Chevy Belair 1965 Chevy Impala 1960 Rambler Classic Cross County Wagon 1963 Rambler Classic four door Sedan 1957 Nash Rambler Wagon 1964 Studebaker Wagonaire 1964 Dodge 330 two door sedan 1967 Plymouth Fury II 3rd Row 1965 Buick Wildcat two Door Hardtop 1965 Pontiac Bonnneville two door Hardtop 1961 Oldsmobile 98 four door hardtop 1962 Pontiac Catalina two door Hardtop 1967 Oldsmobile 98 four door sedan 1959 Ford F150 utility bed All of these are ready for detailing, then final hollow casting
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Post by superba on Jan 21, 2007 23:09:34 GMT 1
Original Johan 1/25 1961 Rambler American two RTV molds one for 1/25 and one for about 1/45 First casting Amber shrunk to about 1/45 second casting white poured today should shrink to about 1/87.
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Post by skunk on Jan 22, 2007 11:14:03 GMT 1
Wow.. you are very quick, Joe. I don't even have the space to have more than four or five models curing at any given time.
Very interesting prototypes, by the way.
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Post by Sylvain on Jan 22, 2007 14:02:47 GMT 1
First Row 64 Ford Counrty Squire 63 Ford Galaxie two door Hdtp… …1967 Oldsmobile 98 four door sedan 1959 Ford F150 utility bed All of these are ready for detailing, then final hollow casting Fabulous! Congratulations!
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Post by stanhas87 on Jan 22, 2007 17:01:32 GMT 1
Dear Joe:
I am not much onto kits (I can not use my hands -duh!!) but when they are 'filler' models such as yours and no one will bring them very soon,my interest has peaked,so to speak,and all are models of cars I care about.
And sorry to re-state that,but I hope that you bring many cars from the 1970's as well (funky times,I agree,but still,the car prototypes were interesting and at times beautiful such as the Ford LTD 1972,Plymouth Satelite 4-door sedan of the same vinatge and the Monaco 1977-1978 or even the Cordoba)
Nick K
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Post by superba on Jan 22, 2007 18:08:18 GMT 1
Some more photos of Bannana cars currently shrinking 1960 Mercury Commuter 1959 Pontiac Bonneville 1960 Oldmobile Ninty Eight 1963 Plymouth Savoy two door sedan 1961 Pontiac Catalina 1960 Ford Falcon Wagon 1964 Plymouth Belveder 1985 Plymouth Gran Fury Not depicted but still shrinking 1948 DeSoto 1954 Checker 1957 Hudson 1957 Studebaker Models not pictured in the string but awaiting hollowing 61 Caddy 63 Mercury Maurader Nick on my next post I will list those models that I still intend on working on over the next eight weeks. I think you'll be happy. I know many don't like kits, but I could never tackle the production of these items on a regular basis....but I can quickly kit items for sell.
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Post by stanhas87 on Jan 22, 2007 21:31:12 GMT 1
Dear Joe:
Thanks.I will become one of regular buyers.I simply like what I see,and Jack,my partner will be in California in July and again will atempt to teach me how to (carefully) build and paint.At this period,I will do the most purchases.
By the way,I have your production on my files already and wonder if you give a reference number for them that I do not know about.Just Curious.A similar occurence happens with Maisto,which until December 2006 gave a separate number to each of its vehicles and that could be acessed only via its main site (and no literature or site I saw has this reference;I did well by writing it down)).As of now,only the case number is given.
Nick K
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Post by superba on Jan 23, 2007 21:10:21 GMT 1
Ok, so I have updated the models lists from Shrinking to casting. I have not listed the other project I will be working on over the next eight to twelve weeks.
The projects listed below are projects where I have already attained a master in a different scale. Next step RTV casting, shrinking will follow.
1/25 or Above
Hubley 1960 Ford Fairlane 1/24 scale Revell 1960 Cevrolet Impala 2 door hardtop Johan 1962 Dodge Dart 2 door hardtop Johan 1962 Studebaker Lark two door hardtop AMT 1963 Mercury Comet two door hardtop AMT 1959 Imperial two door hardtop Johan 1962 Rambler Classic four door sedan Johan 1959 Oldsmobile 98 two door hardtop AMT 1960 Buick Electra two door hardtop AMT 1961 Ford Galaxie Town Coupe two door hardtop
1/43
Dinky 1958 Coronet Dinky 1957 DeSoto Dinky 1961 Pontiac Ambulance Road Champs 1958 Pontiac Motorific 1963 Cadillac Motorific 1963 Pontiac GP Motorific 1963 Chevrolet Impala Trax 1960 Ford Falcon Four door Sabra 1966 Chevrolet Impala Sabra Chevy Malibu wagon White Rose 1969 Plymouth White Rose 1972 Plymouth Corgi 1974 Dodge Monaco
1/55
Jada 1964 Ford Falcon
1/64
Johnny Lightning 1969 Rambler Johnny Lightning 1966 Ford Fairlane Johnny Lightning 1967 Plymouth Satelite Winross Early White Cabover
Listed below are potential projects, I need to procure the master all scales:
Dinky 1966 Ford Galaxie four door Dinky 1968 Pontiac Bonneville four door Dinky 1965 Olds 88 two door hardtop 1959 Chrysler Windsor Johnny Lightning 1967 Olds 442 Several early and mid sixties Johan 1/25 Chryslers and Oldsmobile
about thirty additional project in the ready to go to RTV molds. About six pending purchase of a master. Then I am done! I will focus on selling kits and building a model RR layout.....years ahead of schedule because of hydorshrink.
37 active projects and 30 pending RTV and about 9 projects awaiting masters procurement. Its possible that in six months I will have doubled the protoypes I have made since 1990.
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Post by jackfitz1944 on Jan 24, 2007 1:37:51 GMT 1
When you make a mold with a 1/25th scale model, how much of the model do you put together? Windows, bumpers, grill, headlights etc.? I might try my hand at hydroshrink.
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Post by skunk on Jan 24, 2007 2:22:47 GMT 1
I have been removing all of the small parts from the 1/64 models I am making, because I enjoy making all of the small parts from scratch. It makes for a nicer finished model, but it is a bit of extra work.
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Post by superba on Jan 24, 2007 20:00:15 GMT 1
Jack: It depends. On the old simple Johan models, I assemble the body, glass, grille, rear bumpers and tail lights, then I fill the body with Playdoe.
With the Rambler American I filled with Playdoe then attached the lower chassis.
On newer kits like Revell's 1960 Chevy Impala, I will assemble as above using elmers glue but I will include all the modern detail items found in modern kits. Items like door handles and chrome strips. As above I load the body up with Playdoe and then put in a box and pour RTV.
The reason I use Elmers glue is that it is water soluable. After the mold is complete I soak the model in water and take apart. In the case of the Rambler, it will be put back in the original box and sold on EBAY. There is no need for me to keep these models once I have molds.
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Post by Jerry on Jan 25, 2007 3:52:15 GMT 1
Joe, I am very impressed with not only your selection, but also your results. You are doing a great job.
Jerry
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