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Post by Sabuu on Nov 17, 2005 17:13:14 GMT 1
After reading all the possiblities about removing paint from plastics, I have the following question:
I would like to create an entirely white Ford E-350 boxed van. My idea is to use Busch's nr. 41854 "Greyhound Courier Express" model from which to remove the logo's and text. However, this is not painted but a factory-installed print. Does anybody know if you can remove these kind of prints from plastic without damaging the plastic or having to repaint the model? I was wondering if brake fluid might do the trick as it does with paint (I don't mind if the aluminum sides from the box get "lost", those I can easily repaint). I've also been considering to use terpentine, but I'm affraid that that will damage the plastic!
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Post by Eric on Nov 17, 2005 18:18:32 GMT 1
I use LUX DLE-90 to remove prints which has worked nicely for me every time sofar. More here: www.lux-modellbau.de/html_de/sonst.htmI do not have any experience with removing Busch prints yet, but if the paint used for the prints is identical to Herpa paint an impression of the print will be left on the model. Although the paint can be removed completely it is as if the Herpa paint slighly etches the plastic body. If that is the case a repaint is definately necessary because an image remains visible under certain angles. |
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Post by DavidJohnson on Nov 17, 2005 19:59:25 GMT 1
Some model railroaders have mourned the destruction of expensive diesel shells by automotive brake fluid, so I see that as risky. In the US model rail publications commonly recommended removers are Scalecoat's paint remover, or alcohol. Alcohol ( isopropyl or ethyl) will remove acrylic paints and some inks, and should not harm the plastic.
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Post by only87 on Nov 17, 2005 20:27:40 GMT 1
I usually use the Lux DLE-90, too. But I believe it is not compatible with Busch models because of the plastic they use. I haven't tested it myself on a Busch model, but what I've read on the mo87 board, it sucks the softener of that kind of plastic and it gets so brittle that it breaks. I had this effect only with a Monogram model so far. It can be glued, but I think this is not what you're looking for.
I do not know of alternatives to that product, but there certainly are some others. I had the experience that the Lux products doesn't remove the paint completely, i. e. leaves stains that can be seen if the light falls in a certain angle. I had two similar Albedo models cleaned one day, on one the print left stains on the "glance" of the plastic, on the other the plastic left no stains at all. I don't know why and have no explanation. I believe these stains can be polished away, but I haven't tried that yet.
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Post by cfesmire on Nov 17, 2005 23:50:45 GMT 1
Castrol Super Clean, an automotive degreaser, is a terrific product for removing just about anything and any kind of plastic can be left in for a generous amount of time with no harm to it, the best I've found. As Dave said much of the printing (I know on Herpas) is actually an ink and can be removed with alcohol. Here's an interesting article about a variety of stripping products: www.bonediggers.com/1-3/strip/strip.html |
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Post by skunk on Nov 18, 2005 2:41:15 GMT 1
I ruined a rare S.E.S. Lada (well, rare to me at least) when trying to remove some prints, so I shall definitely remember the tips received in this thread. At least the Lada's wheels and other small parts will remain useful.
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Post by Sabuu on Nov 22, 2005 11:15:59 GMT 1
Thanks for all the replies, I think I will have a go with Castrol or LUX, first I will have to find (one of) these...
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Post by Eric on Dec 24, 2005 0:06:02 GMT 1
Lux DLE-90 is available from Modelbouw Luthart in Venlo. ...which is not quite next-door to Zeist, I know...  |
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Post by Sabuu on Aug 6, 2006 10:31:10 GMT 1
Thnx again for all the answers, I would sure like to get my hands on Castrol Super Clean, however I've been unable to purchase this in the Netherlands... It seems this product is not being marketed by Castrol here.. There is a "Castrol Super Clean" for sale here, but this is a simple (hand) detergent!! Question: I'm going to Italy in a few weeks to spend my summer vacation there, does anyone know if you can buy it there?? Or else: does anyone know if Castrol sells the (American) Super Clean degreaser in Europe (if so, where?) or if (and where) you can buy this on internet..?!
Eric: I know Luthart very well and I've been ordering stuff from them every now and then, so if I cannot get the Castrol, then I sure will turn to the Lux!
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Post by austinvfd on Aug 23, 2006 14:10:13 GMT 1
I just attempted to remove the prints off a Busch Chevy Blazer with Brake fluid. I can confirm it does not work  |
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Post by only87 on Aug 23, 2006 17:45:25 GMT 1
I have just tried to polish some prints off a Brekina Alfa Giulia and it worked rather fine. The good thing about polishing is you can decide which prints shall remain on the model and it also works on painted models. Now I have a beatiful standard white Giulia but with the typical Alfa cloverleaf printed on both front fenders instead of the racing version. But be careful with painted models on the edges, the paint may naturally come off on there first.
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