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Post by hemicuda on Nov 17, 2011 5:16:41 GMT 1
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Post by alcarter on Nov 17, 2011 18:10:51 GMT 1
Interesting. I went to their website and looked at their American cars... I don't know much about 3D printing, which I think these are, but they looked pretty decent to me.
However, several of the pictures are listed as the wrong years: The Buick is not 1954; more like 1951 or 52; the Plymouth looked more like a 1957 (not 1954); the 1954 Ford is definitely a 1951 or 52 (or maybe a 49 or 50?); and I don't know Studebakers well enough to be sure, but the model pictured looks older than a 1958.
But, the El Camino looked correct as did the DeSoto and Hudson. I'd sure be interested to hear from someone who has one of these products - they are tempting, but not inexpensive.
Al Carter
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Post by swampdaddy on Nov 18, 2011 0:38:01 GMT 1
Yep, the 1954 Ford at that site is either a 1949 or 50 model; photo was pretty fuzzy and hard to see for me. Swamp Daddy
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Post by jim68cuda on Nov 18, 2011 3:43:37 GMT 1
The Plymouth Belvedere 2 door hardtop is a 1956 model. The El Camino is a 1960 model, the Ford is a 49 or 50 model, and the Studebaker Commander is a 1955 model. So there are a few that have the model year wrong. All the cars I looked at, Buick, Plymouth, Chrysler, Ford, and Chevy, all appear to be copies of 1/43 scale Dinky Toys diecast models that were available in the 50's and early 60's. Its too bad these model are made using a lower budget 3D printer, leaving a "frosty" looking surface. I do believe the model can be sanded down, but I believe you'll loose alot of detail in the process. It appears that Shapeways uses a higher quality 3D printer which looks like it leaves a smooth paintable surface. But they only make and sell stuff that their customers submit the detailed scan or cad drawings of. I don't think they would be willing to scan your 1/25 scale model car and then make a 1/87 scale model from the scan, but then, maybe no one ever asked. www.shapeways.com/gallery?mg%5Bpage%5D=1#mg
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Post by hemicuda on Nov 19, 2011 7:06:46 GMT 1
Jim, thanks for the link. I had been to that site, coincidentally, few days ago, while researching 3d printers (which is where I found the thread on the model RR forum which you participated in, and posted a link to a thread here on 87th).
I don't understand the shaperways site--it seems like a kind of Amazon.com where people with 3d printers sell their wares. Some of the models look like computer CAD animation, with nothing physically produced; nothing looks promising, as of yet...
Alcarter, on the thread regarding that Dutch site, one of our members here did order some of the models, and like them (read through that thread)
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Post by alcarter on Nov 19, 2011 17:21:12 GMT 1
Hemicuda,
Thanks for pointing me to that link. The finished product looks decent, but I'm thinking I'm not going to spend that much (and the postage is a lot, too) for now - I'll wait, and maybe this 3D printing thing will produce even better models, hollow ones, too....
Al Carter
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Post by hemicuda on Nov 20, 2011 6:07:51 GMT 1
Al, as Jim68cuda pointed out the shapeways site, I do think there is promise. I like the concept of the A2 site, like member 'Sabuu' pointed out they are like cartoons or something along those lines. Or like someone else mentioned, they are replicas of vintage toy cars.
I would like someone producing models that replicate vintage toys, if the price can be held in check. There are so many classic cars, I can only imagine the near endless possibilities!
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Post by JM82 on Nov 25, 2011 22:32:11 GMT 1
Still on my wishlist to be made in 1-87 scale are modern American fire trucks: pumpers, aerial ladders, and heavy rescue trucks. And preferably with custom cabs by Pierce, E-One, Spartan, etc. And NOT resin models, either! I'm talking preassembled plastic models with the same attention to detail and quality as what Athearn was making a few years ago in their Ford C, Ford F and Mack B lineups.
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Post by alcarter on Dec 20, 2011 18:57:26 GMT 1
Hemicuda, Thanks for pointing me to that link. The finished product looks decent, but I'm thinking I'm not going to spend that much (and the postage is a lot, too) for now - I'll wait, and maybe this 3D printing thing will produce even better models, hollow ones, too.... Al Carter Well, I went ahead and ordered two of these anyway, despite the somewhat high cost - couldn't help myself - gotta see what they are like. I'll post my views once I get them.... Al Carter
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Post by hemicuda on Dec 21, 2011 8:03:38 GMT 1
We eagerly await the reports and photos!!
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Post by Sylvain on Dec 21, 2011 11:53:26 GMT 1
Well, I went ahead and ordered two of these anyway, despite the somewhat high cost - couldn't help myself - gotta see what they are like. I'll post my views once I get them.... Al Carter Yes, it's interesting to see how they look. I thought about ordering some too, as the cars are interesting ones, but they are too expensive for what they are, to my point of view. It will be interesting to know what you think of them. About the mistakes in the year model of some of these cars, it can be explain sometimes by the fact that they are copies of Dinky Toys 1/43 models. Sometimes, Dinky Toys did release a model a few year after the real car was made, but the model is known as from the year it has been released, like the 1955 Studebaker, made as a model by Dinky-Toys in 1958, or the 1951 Buick released as a model in 1954 (I don't know if I express myself clearly here…).
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Post by alcarter on Dec 21, 2011 18:56:14 GMT 1
Well, I went ahead and ordered two of these anyway, despite the somewhat high cost - couldn't help myself - gotta see what they are like. I'll post my views once I get them.... Al Carter Yes, it's interesting to see how they look. I thought about ordering some too, as the cars are interesting ones, but they are too expensive for what they are, to my point of view. It will be interesting to know what you think of them. About the mistakes in the year model of some of these cars, it can be explain sometimes by the fact that they are copies of Dinky Toys 1/43 models. Sometimes, Dinky Toys did release a model a few year after the real car was made, but the model is known as from the year it has been released, like the 1955 Studebaker, made as a model by Dinky-Toys in 1958, or the 1951 Buick released as a model in 1954 (I don't know if I express myself clearly here…). Silvain, Yes, you make perfect sense. I had never really thought about that before. I had a bunch of those Dinky Toys vehicles in my youth, in the 1950's, and while at that time I didn't give much thought to "scale", I sure did enjoy them and thought they were pretty authentic. Interesting to know that these are copies of the Dinky Toys cars. Must be that "shrinking process" that I hear you guys referring to, but have no idea how it is done.... Anyway, I'll give them a good inspection and let you all know what I think. Al Carter
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Post by swampdaddy on Mar 8, 2013 6:07:56 GMT 1
With the release of the very nice GMC Scenicruiser, my hopes for some other buses has risen again. I'd sure like the very modern NFI E40LF or E40LFR (which are trolleybus models); but, the same body with slightly different roof pods could be diesel, diesel electric or whatever propulsion you want. Also, it would be nice to have a 50's Marmon-Herrington trolleybus or a Canadian CCF-Brill trolleybus I could buy in quantity. have fun, Swamp Daddy
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Post by swampdaddy on Apr 13, 2013 22:50:29 GMT 1
I sure like to see a 1999 or up FORD Ranger pickup truck in multiple colors. Swamp Daddy,
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Post by Mark Maticek on Jun 3, 2013 1:41:37 GMT 1
This message board has been rather quiet for the past couple of months. Perhaps we can restart this discussion even though everyone seems rather pessimistic about where the hobby is going. Here are some cars that I think absolutely must be made in 1/87 scale: - Lexus LF-A. I know all of the problems with getting Japanese cars built but this is an extraordinary work of engineering and the look grows on you. I saw one in a showroom in Mayfair, London last year and I was very impressed. I can see Spark doing this one.
- Bugatti Veyron. Being owned by VW, I would think this model has at least a chance of being made by one of the German firms. I saw this car in a showroom in Berlin and while not beautiful in the normal sense, it has a remarkable presence. Plus, it is the fastest production car on the planet. Wiking, Herpa?
- Alfa Romeo 8C. Not necessarily a great car but certainly a beautiful car. Ricko? Spark?
- Ferrari 458 Italia. Spark/Redline...get that license back. There are two many Ferrari models that have yet to be made in 1/87.
- Ferrari FF. (See previous).
- Chevrolet Corvair. Any year. An obvious Brekina model in keeping with their trend to do American prototypes of the 50's-60's.
- McLaren MP4-12C. How about taking the plunge back into 1/87 Minichamps? If not, Spark.
- Lotus Esprit. Any year including the newly announced version at last year's Paris Auto Show. Miber is the only one I know of in 1/87.
- Mazda. Any Mazda. Very similar in most markets. Mazda3 hatchback, MX-5 (current version) or the original RX-7 (Brekina, Wiking, Herpa).
- Triumph TR-6 and/or TR-7. The classic roadster would be a perfect fit for Brekina. I can also see Wiking or Herpa doing this as their one or two annual in-house designs.
- 1969 Alfa Romeo GTV. I just loved this car. Another Brekina candidate.
- Alfa Romeo Montreal. A beautiful car.
- 1964 Pontiac GTO Convertible. One of the first real muscle cars and one model that has never been done to my knowledge.
- 1969 Dodge Charger. Another classic 60's muscle car.
I would add that any recent car would be very welcome. Ford's new Fiesta and Focus, Toyota's Prius, Nissan's Leaf and Masterpiece's Dodge Challenger and Journey (please, someone!). Several additional thoughts about this list. With the Toy Fair announcements in February, the Veyron and McLaren are coming (much to my surprise). 4D has the 458 Italia but we could do with a better version. I hadn't even hoped for the Aventador and now Welly is coming out with one. Now it is time to hope for the rest of the models on this list as well as add a few more: - Alfa Romeo 4C. Soon to make its US debut, this beauty deserves to be made, perhaps Norev or Welly.
- 2014 Corvette C7. I know, I know, GM licensing issues. Nonetheless, this is a worthy addition to our hobby if someone in Europe could make it and sneak it into the US.
- 2013 Jaguar F-Type. Probably a Schuco or Welly model but too significant to ignore.
- Tesla and Fisker. Could be Spark models.
- Dan Gurney's 1967 Spa winning Eagle F1. I can dream can't I? A perfect model for High Tech Model or Spark.
- 2013 Lotus Elise and/or Evora. Very little chance of being made I know but Spark has already done the Evora in 1/43.
Perhaps we'll be surprised at the next Toy Fair with some of these gems.
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