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Post by Christian on Nov 4, 2008 20:19:52 GMT 1
My brother has finished three models which are now available as kits: - 003 Alfa Romeo Giulia GT
- 004 Saab 99
- 005 Fiat Dino Spider
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Post by skunk on Nov 6, 2008 19:32:25 GMT 1
Lovely, just lovely. Too bad there's a glut of Giulia GT/GTVs right now, but I'll still get one.
Can't wait to make a Saab 900 Aero 3-door, based on your excellent work. Any more 99/900 iterations planned?
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Post by skunk on Nov 6, 2008 19:33:32 GMT 1
Oh, I think that the Herpa Volvo P1800 wheels should look perfect on the Dino.
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Post by Cor_DutchArt on Nov 6, 2008 23:30:44 GMT 1
Oh, I think that the Herpa Volvo P1800 wheels should look perfect on the Dino. And how about Automobilia's spoke wheels? Great models Christian!  |
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Post by Christian on Nov 6, 2008 23:40:22 GMT 1
Too bad there's a glut of Giulia GT/GTVs right now Our GT hasn't sold very well so far - what did I miss? Where are all those Giulias? I only know of the High Tech kit for 45 Euros, which I wouldn't call competition. |
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Post by Cor_DutchArt on Nov 6, 2008 23:43:24 GMT 1
RPM87 GTV?
That's hardley the same car.
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Post by only87 on Nov 7, 2008 13:53:33 GMT 1
I guess everybody is waiting for Brekina. Perhaps it's called wisdom tooth because losing it makes you predict the future (besides looking like a hamster).
I must say I was a little surprised myself to see you pushing the GT right now. It seems risky. But then again, what doesn't these days?
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Post by skunk on Nov 8, 2008 7:09:52 GMT 1
Yeah, I guess I dreamt something or other. Painkillers, you know...
It does seem kind of risky, kind of like making a BMW E3 - you just know there'll be one soon enough. Of course, this recent French and Italian wave was rather sudden; when did development start? But, again, I am happy and I am buying one, because it's always been one of my top three favorite cars. Maybe I'll get two and turn one of them into a GTAm?
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Post by Christian on Nov 8, 2008 23:48:26 GMT 1
I must say I was a little surprised myself to see you pushing the GT right now. We had to. The master was there and waiting any longer wouldn't have made a Brekina version less likely. It's really frustrating sometimes and I don't think we will go ahead with the NSU shown in Fulda. |
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Post by only87 on Nov 9, 2008 9:53:17 GMT 1
I surely didn't want to criticize, if that came of the wrong way, I'd want to aplogize. I do think that I understand, there are a few similarities to the "Alfa 75" incident and my Rover. I sincerely hope for you that such a thing won't happen with your Alfa GT. I also don't think that you or your brother understood my comment that way, but I just want to be clear. I have my doubts about the NSU, too, like I've told you already. but I've seen the raw casting of the model and I think it looks just wonderful. I wouldn't regret having your model instead of having one from Brekina or whoever. It may be very plausible that such a model may come from a settled manufacturer. And really, what doeesn't these days? Glas V 8, Fiat 130 and 131? And like you said, a small-series model doesn't make a mainstream model less plausible.
If I would want to criticize, I would probably question to cast and pre-finance so and so much models, especially if the model in question is on the "black list". But I know that you don't have the time to cast them yourself and that there are no real other alternatives, so I won't. But "postponing" the whole thing, like it seems you did with the Alfa GT, won't probably help a thing. Also like you said, a small series model won't make a Brekina model less probable and who will guarantee that there will be a model produced in volumes in, let's say in three years, and that you won't still be still thinking about releasing the Sportprinz then. I belive that your GT should have been released about one or two years ago just when the master was ready. At least that would have been a much better timing than now. But I sincerely hope for you that there won't be a Brekina model of it in the next time. The same goes for the NSU.
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Post by Christian on Nov 10, 2008 0:37:16 GMT 1
if that came of the wrong way Not at all. Maybe I should just complain less ... You have outlined the predicaments of this type of production quite well. A Brekina model of a GT or any other model we are making is not just irksome, but a minor financial disaster as well. Releasing the model a year or two earlier would have certainly made more sense, there were however various obstacles preventing that. We are adjusting our strategy at the moment, i. e. we'll be making less likely models. The Sportprinz might see the light of day, but only if we can release it quickly enough. |
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Post by skunk on Nov 10, 2008 5:10:54 GMT 1
How much expenditure would be left before the Sportprinz is ready for release?
I think you are going to have to focus on bread-and-butter Japanese Domestic Market cars of the 1980s from now on. <wink>
In any case, whatever GT may be released by Brekina mightn't be the same iteration as yours. God knows there were a lot of versions. Maybe a '76 GTV 2000 would have been even "safer"?
JMK is playing it safe with the Gilbern Genie - rather unlikely to be picked up by anyone else, I should think.
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Post by only87 on Nov 11, 2008 23:58:53 GMT 1
Håkan, the question of "safety" didn't really arise two years ago. That's a new phenomenon mainly caused by Brekina, but also models like Spark and the Atlas collection. The GT just got caught in the switch. I also have projects here that I had to drop. For instance, I have a Fiat 124 and a 131 here in the same stadium as the Sportprinz. One day I was thinking if I should add wipers or not, the next day they were ready for the trash can.
I have others like that, and the question is what to do with them. Realease them as quickly as possible to avoid the trash can or just wait and see? Just going on as before until the big bang is a bit depressing, especially if you heard that bang before.
Models like the Sportprinz do have a high chance of making it into mass production soon... but then again, do they? What about my Lancia Beta? Will all of those be released in the next year or only some. If the latter, which ones?
I've already adjusted my strategy, but I'm still not plying safe. Because playing safe really means making a Gilbern or a Humber Snipe. I just don't want to drop everything I've created so far to go safe, it's too late to go safe.
That is the dilemma as far as it concerns me.
Now imagine someone who isn't casting by himself, imagine there's a minimum quantity requirement from the caster or other obstacles. A Gilbern could suddenly turn into a risky choice again. And whilst you're looking for a new caster... time goes by. And in that timeframe Brekina is releasing one model after another, limiting your next choices again.
It's getting tricky, and it's become quite a necessity for the small-series guys to talk to each other about their plans and also opportunities, which is not easy for some and I understand why. I'm glad that this is working good so far and I hope it will stay that way. Otherwise that would add another bit to the dilemma.
I would say, stay on course with the Sportprinz, if I can help, don't hesitate to ask. I don't even think that the NSU is that much at risk at the moment. I wouldn't probably give the advise in two years, but for now...
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Post by matthias on Nov 12, 2008 0:31:54 GMT 1
I belive that your GT should have been released about one or two years ago just when the master was ready. Well, it was. The models available right now are from the second batch. The first batch (an edition of 30) was casted around 2004-2005 and went out of stock last spring. How much expenditure would be left before the Sportprinz is ready for release? That depends on my mood and especially on the free time that I have left for making masters. If I would find the time, it could be ready within a week or two. Or lets say three to be safe. Then again I should be writing applications right now so it will probably take some more time... Furthermore we need at least three masters to be ready for a new mould (a condition of our current caster). There is still my own version of the Alfa 75 ready for casting but I assume that a batch wouldn't be worth the effort and the third master would be missing. |
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Post by skunk on Nov 12, 2008 8:04:14 GMT 1
Matthias (Grottendieck?), welcome to the board! I think yours may be the best crafted, most informative first message ever posted on this board - with honorable mention to Jerry, of course.
I think that the Sportprinz will be safe enough to fully develop, but like Peter says, communication with fellow artisans will be very important from now on! And I'm sure that Marc and others can be trusted to gently dissuade you and your kind from projects that might otherwise end up stillborn.
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