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Post by keroliver on Dec 16, 2003 11:26:07 GMT 1
What color for the windows?
As I sometimes make models such as Le Mans 24 Hours cars, and these models are just cast in one piece, I need to paint the windows. So far, I paint the borders black and the main window/windshield plain gray. See the models Toyota GTone LM98 on my website.
How about you? Which color do you use? What do you advice?
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Post by Eric on Dec 16, 2003 12:48:37 GMT 1
I have heard of people painting the windows gloss black and of people painting them blue (which is supposed to imitate the reflection of the sky) but in my opinion neither solution was really convincing in pictures. Although I haven't built that many solid models that required having the windows painted, I painted the windows silver and gave them a coat of Tamiya 'smoke' for the ones that did need the painting which results in something that resembles tinted windows. The result (on a Magnuson yard-tractor) can be seen here: www.87thscale.info/magnuson.htm
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Post by Sylvain on Dec 16, 2003 18:45:22 GMT 1
To paint windshield and windows, I’m not much for blue or silver. I only use Gloss black. To me, it seems that when you look at a hollow model, windows are definitively very dark, especially when windows and windshield are not too wide, like for an automobile of the 40’s. And, for such small windows, when you finally put a hollow model beside a solid resin one, the effect is quite the same (Sorry, I've no way to show you what I mean), when silver or blue paints reveal immediately the solid cast model. Of course, the problem is different for much wider windows, but I prefer to keep the same solution for all my models. So, as no other solution convinces me, gloss black seems to me the easier way I’ve found. But it’s a mater of taste.
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Post by skunk on Dec 16, 2003 21:17:21 GMT 1
I always take the time to drill out the windows and make my own. With a candle, some clear plastic from packaging material, and a lot of patience, really complex curves are possible. On the Magnuson tractor that should have been pretty easy. A Toyota GT-One would provide more of a challenge. This level of involvement also helps explain why I only rarely get around to finishing my projects.
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Post by keroliver on Dec 17, 2003 5:00:18 GMT 1
Thanks a lot for your different suggestions. I will try all of them... well, actually maybe not drill out the windows. ;D
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Post by Christian on Dec 17, 2003 16:40:03 GMT 1
Oh, drilling out the windows is not too difficult. Look at what Jens Müller did with an Autosculpt model: www.mo87.de/jmk-018.htm
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Post by Lee on Dec 17, 2003 17:17:34 GMT 1
What works for me is either a very dark, almost black, smokey grey or very dark blue. Then I Will float a drop of oil base silver in a dish of water. The silver spreads out and breaks up into very small pieces. You can pick up little bits of silver and put it on the window. A little goes a long ways so do not over do it. Put clear gloss over the finished product when you are happy with the effect. On drilling out the windows, where do you stop drilling. When you have a hollow model?
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Post by Christian on Dec 22, 2003 12:13:49 GMT 1
On drilling out the windows, where do you stop drilling. When you have a hollow model? It is easy with Autosculpt "kits". They have the windows closed but are hollow inside. As for the others, yes, I regularly end up with hollow models. Magnuson's Chevrolet Nova is one of my recent conversions. ;D
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Post by cfesmire on Jan 25, 2004 4:12:25 GMT 1
I do a lot of solid resin kits. I prefer to use Polly Scale oily black. It has just a hint of mettalic in it. I never use high gloss on anything, a satin or semi gloss finish seems to be more realistic.
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Post by skunk on Jul 6, 2004 21:46:09 GMT 1
For those of us who prefer to hollow out and make new windows, the best tool is a hairdryer.
Make a buck over which to bend the new "glass" (transparent plastic) and, using a hairdryer, stretch and fit your new windows.
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Post by Lee on Jul 9, 2004 0:51:33 GMT 1
Skunk! You are in an area that is unknown to me and I wish to learn. First what material do you make your "buck" out of? And just how do you go about making this "buck" (I will assume that a buck is a form). I am interested for when we get into hollow casting.
Thanks, Lee
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Post by skunk on Jul 11, 2004 20:28:05 GMT 1
I have used wood and plastic as well. For a Toyota Yaris on which I am working right now, i can use the "glass" piece, molded in black plastic, that was originally used. To make windows for an entire car it is usually necessary to make each window separately since compound shapes are often hard (impossible) to get right.
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Post by Lee on Aug 14, 2004 2:12:27 GMT 1
In looking at the pictures of the Magnuson models in the manufactures model listing I have noticed a progression of improvement on the window treatment. The windows in the Dodge mail truck look allmost real. Lots of different ideas on window treatment are shown in the various models.
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Post by DavidJohnson on Feb 27, 2005 3:21:35 GMT 1
For solid cast windows I perfer a dark grey color with some reflective qualities.
My first coat is Floquil Graphite, which dries to a dark metalic grey. Next, to simulate reflective glare I like to add a small highlight near the top of the window and maybe an area of high curvature, using a silver waterbased pen sold for marking black pages of photo albums. My final step is to use Testors Acryl clear gloss coat, sometimes with a little extra brushing to blend the silver highlight. I like the highlight to be subtle, as my desire for painted windows is to have a color that does not call attention to itself.
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Post by Lee on Mar 1, 2005 19:37:48 GMT 1
Interesting! Could you send some pictures of your models to Eric so he could post them? It would be interesting to see your results.
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